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	Comments on: Homebuilders hit by patent claim on frame-drying	</title>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 17:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I went and read the original patent; very often there&#039;s more to the patent than is summarized in the news. It&#039;s US8567688

https://www.google.com/patents/US8567688

However, the claims specifically say that you have to place a moisture barrier in the area to be dried &quot;substantially sealing it&quot;  and

&lt;q&gt;
&quot;measuring moisture content using a moisture meter at a plurality of locations within the space, wherein said plurality of locations include low and high locations of a plurality of exposed wall studs;&quot;
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So if you only measure moisture at one location, you may not be infringing  on the IP., etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went and read the original patent; very often there&#8217;s more to the patent than is summarized in the news. It&#8217;s US8567688</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/patents/US8567688" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/patents/US8567688</a></p>
<p>However, the claims specifically say that you have to place a moisture barrier in the area to be dried &#8220;substantially sealing it&#8221;  and</p>
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&#8220;measuring moisture content using a moisture meter at a plurality of locations within the space, wherein said plurality of locations include low and high locations of a plurality of exposed wall studs;&#8221;<br />
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<p>So if you only measure moisture at one location, you may not be infringing  on the IP., etc.</p>
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		By: Richard Nieporent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Nieporent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 17:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The process that is patented is comprised of the following steps:
-Measuring moisture content using a moisture meter at locations within the space;
-Determining whether the moisture content meets a threshold indication recommending that drying be performed;
-Positioning within the space at least one drying device (dehumidifier, space heater or air moving device) for the purpose of reducing the moisture level; and
-Sealing the space being treated with a vapor barrier.&lt;/i&gt;

Why would any patent examiner  grant a patent for this process? However, if one can patent the use of a dehumidifier to dehumidify, why not take advantage of the fact that we have incompetent patent examiners. Thus, I’ve decided to patent the following process.

•	Get a pot (small, medium or large).
•	Fill it with water.
•	Put the pot on top of a heat source (gas, electric, wood).
•	Wait until bubbles form in the pot.
•	Place food (pasta, egg, vegetable, etc.) in the pot and cook until done.

Now everyone will have to pay me royalties if they want to cook dinner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The process that is patented is comprised of the following steps:<br />
-Measuring moisture content using a moisture meter at locations within the space;<br />
-Determining whether the moisture content meets a threshold indication recommending that drying be performed;<br />
-Positioning within the space at least one drying device (dehumidifier, space heater or air moving device) for the purpose of reducing the moisture level; and<br />
-Sealing the space being treated with a vapor barrier.</i></p>
<p>Why would any patent examiner  grant a patent for this process? However, if one can patent the use of a dehumidifier to dehumidify, why not take advantage of the fact that we have incompetent patent examiners. Thus, I’ve decided to patent the following process.</p>
<p>•	Get a pot (small, medium or large).<br />
•	Fill it with water.<br />
•	Put the pot on top of a heat source (gas, electric, wood).<br />
•	Wait until bubbles form in the pot.<br />
•	Place food (pasta, egg, vegetable, etc.) in the pot and cook until done.</p>
<p>Now everyone will have to pay me royalties if they want to cook dinner.</p>
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		By: wfjag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 17:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does the patent cover blow dryers and dry wit?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the patent cover blow dryers and dry wit?</p>
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		By: Bumper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bumper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My understanding of a patent is that it has to be an invention and you can&#039;t take prior art (something that has or is already being done by others) and call it your invention. 

If that is correct, then all I can say is that ten years ago, when our A/C drain backed up and flooded the house while we were on vacation, our insurance company hired a guy who brought in a couple of industrial strength dehumidifiers to dry out our house and he didn&#039;t look like he was the first one to have this idea.

I think this comes under the heading of &quot;let&#039;s run it up the flag pole and see if anybody salutes it&quot; instead of sue first and ask questions later. If anything this case points out dysfunctional the patent office has become, grant the patent and let the courts sort it out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of a patent is that it has to be an invention and you can&#8217;t take prior art (something that has or is already being done by others) and call it your invention. </p>
<p>If that is correct, then all I can say is that ten years ago, when our A/C drain backed up and flooded the house while we were on vacation, our insurance company hired a guy who brought in a couple of industrial strength dehumidifiers to dry out our house and he didn&#8217;t look like he was the first one to have this idea.</p>
<p>I think this comes under the heading of &#8220;let&#8217;s run it up the flag pole and see if anybody salutes it&#8221; instead of sue first and ask questions later. If anything this case points out dysfunctional the patent office has become, grant the patent and let the courts sort it out.</p>
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		By: peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be fair they never said they invented the process, they just patented it cos no one else had.  It&#039;s not important that it is obvious or even been done millions of times before, is it?  After all that&#039;s how the patent office works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair they never said they invented the process, they just patented it cos no one else had.  It&#8217;s not important that it is obvious or even been done millions of times before, is it?  After all that&#8217;s how the patent office works.</p>
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		By: Mannie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mannie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 22:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the identical process being used by legions of water remediation firms coast to coast. This is how you dry out a house.  Everyone from ServiceMaster to &quot;Mom-and-Pop-Dry&quot; would be effected by this.

Dehumidifiers and air movers have certainly been used for structural drying, long before 2003. That&#039;s what those big industrial sized dehus and air movers were designed and sold for. Absolutely prior art, and damnear ubiquitous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the identical process being used by legions of water remediation firms coast to coast. This is how you dry out a house.  Everyone from ServiceMaster to &#8220;Mom-and-Pop-Dry&#8221; would be effected by this.</p>
<p>Dehumidifiers and air movers have certainly been used for structural drying, long before 2003. That&#8217;s what those big industrial sized dehus and air movers were designed and sold for. Absolutely prior art, and damnear ubiquitous.</p>
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		By: ras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just remember, if you open a window cuz it&#039;s a little stuffy, well, that one&#039;s mine. There&#039;s a reason they call me Mr. Non-Obvious!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember, if you open a window cuz it&#8217;s a little stuffy, well, that one&#8217;s mine. There&#8217;s a reason they call me Mr. Non-Obvious!</p>
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		By: Shtetl G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shtetl G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Genius.   I&#039;m going to patent the process of putting a dehumidifier in a musty basement.  Why stop at home builders? Mwahaah Haaaa Haaaa (evil laugh).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius.   I&#8217;m going to patent the process of putting a dehumidifier in a musty basement.  Why stop at home builders? Mwahaah Haaaa Haaaa (evil laugh).</p>
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