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	Comments on: New York Times on bake-my-cake cases	</title>
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		By: L. C. Burgundy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always figured that the business owners who get tangled up in these cases are none too bright and/or secretly do want the publicity. It&#039;s pretty easy to legally get rid of people you don&#039;t want to serve in the kind of arranged-in-advance business that weddings are. Once people hear you don&#039;t WANT to serve them on their wedding day (but you will, only after you say you think they&#039;re bad people and you&#039;re doing this only to avoid violating the law), they&#039;ll go away. They might speak badly about you, but them&#039;s the breaks of refusing customers. Secondarily, threats to donate to political enemies will almost always certainly work in ridding yourself of a customer.

That said, I find the kind of morality Mr. Phillips professes to practice by refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding to be utterly self-serving, morally shallow, and silly. First, vendors are vendors. They are not endorsing anything, and no one cares what they think about any given event. I&#039;m sure Mr. Phillips has baked cakes for second or later marriages of divorcees before - and as a Southern Baptists, he KNOWS Jesus Christ actually did condemn such remarriages quite explicitly.  Marriages are public record, so he could always verify his customers have never been married - but I sit here pretty sure he never did that. And I cannot see how he could engage in cake baking for any non-Christian religious denomination&#039;s celebration of any sort lest he risk celebrating or endorsing blasphemy against the Lord. The reality is that he is practicing a very shallow, surface appearance form of morality based on how things sort-of kind-of look.

Photographers are a closer call (they at least are making expressive art, not people who mix a couple of commodities together), but it&#039;s even easier to get rid of an unwanted customer for them, because people really don&#039;t want a photographer that disapproves of what they&#039;re photographing.

Finally, I think this goes to show how self-absorbed wedding cake bakers are. Sorry, but they are. Personal experience speaking here. They are glorified line cooks at best, not moral arbiters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always figured that the business owners who get tangled up in these cases are none too bright and/or secretly do want the publicity. It&#8217;s pretty easy to legally get rid of people you don&#8217;t want to serve in the kind of arranged-in-advance business that weddings are. Once people hear you don&#8217;t WANT to serve them on their wedding day (but you will, only after you say you think they&#8217;re bad people and you&#8217;re doing this only to avoid violating the law), they&#8217;ll go away. They might speak badly about you, but them&#8217;s the breaks of refusing customers. Secondarily, threats to donate to political enemies will almost always certainly work in ridding yourself of a customer.</p>
<p>That said, I find the kind of morality Mr. Phillips professes to practice by refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding to be utterly self-serving, morally shallow, and silly. First, vendors are vendors. They are not endorsing anything, and no one cares what they think about any given event. I&#8217;m sure Mr. Phillips has baked cakes for second or later marriages of divorcees before &#8211; and as a Southern Baptists, he KNOWS Jesus Christ actually did condemn such remarriages quite explicitly.  Marriages are public record, so he could always verify his customers have never been married &#8211; but I sit here pretty sure he never did that. And I cannot see how he could engage in cake baking for any non-Christian religious denomination&#8217;s celebration of any sort lest he risk celebrating or endorsing blasphemy against the Lord. The reality is that he is practicing a very shallow, surface appearance form of morality based on how things sort-of kind-of look.</p>
<p>Photographers are a closer call (they at least are making expressive art, not people who mix a couple of commodities together), but it&#8217;s even easier to get rid of an unwanted customer for them, because people really don&#8217;t want a photographer that disapproves of what they&#8217;re photographing.</p>
<p>Finally, I think this goes to show how self-absorbed wedding cake bakers are. Sorry, but they are. Personal experience speaking here. They are glorified line cooks at best, not moral arbiters.</p>
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