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		By: peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was the finger resisting arrest?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the finger resisting arrest?</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Certainly the salesman should not have handed any customer (LEO or private citizen) a loaded weapon or magazine. But, simply said there is no part of checking out a firearm that involves covering a body part with the muzzle and pulling the trigger.  

As far as the 4 basic firearm safety rules;

1.Clearly he didn&#039;t assume the weapon was loaded and unload it before cleaning or &quot;playing&quot; with it.
2. Giving him the benefit of the doubt it appears that he did point the muzzle in relatively safe direction (downward towards the floor) at least until until it covered his finger.
3. It also does seem that he intentionally placed his finger on the trigger with full intention of pulling the trigger.
4.He certainly didn&#039;t verify his target nor what was beyond it.

As we all should know violating any rule can get someone killed, or cause you to lose a finger! 

As far as liability, it&#039;s anyone&#039;s guess what a jury will find.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the salesman should not have handed any customer (LEO or private citizen) a loaded weapon or magazine. But, simply said there is no part of checking out a firearm that involves covering a body part with the muzzle and pulling the trigger.  </p>
<p>As far as the 4 basic firearm safety rules;</p>
<p>1.Clearly he didn&#8217;t assume the weapon was loaded and unload it before cleaning or &#8220;playing&#8221; with it.<br />
2. Giving him the benefit of the doubt it appears that he did point the muzzle in relatively safe direction (downward towards the floor) at least until until it covered his finger.<br />
3. It also does seem that he intentionally placed his finger on the trigger with full intention of pulling the trigger.<br />
4.He certainly didn&#8217;t verify his target nor what was beyond it.</p>
<p>As we all should know violating any rule can get someone killed, or cause you to lose a finger! </p>
<p>As far as liability, it&#8217;s anyone&#8217;s guess what a jury will find.</p>
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		By: Thomas O. Meehan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas O. Meehan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 21:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both the officer and the shop bear responsibility. 

The Officer did not check the pistol before pulling the trigger. 

The shop had a loaded pistol in the display.   I&#039;ve never seen this done, anywhere.  It is obviously unsafe.   In every gun store I&#039;ve been into, and that&#039;s a lot, everyone behind the counter had a visible firearm holstered.   The idea that a shop would have loaded weapons in the case, is not consistent with any plan to deter robbery that I can think of.  

I am not an attorney.  But it seems to me that if a clerk hands a loaded firearm to a customer, there might be an issue there given that the customer is now in possession of a loaded firearm.  This depends on local ordinances, state law, etc.  

In one New Jersey sporting goods store I visited, the clerk would not let me handle a revolver without his hands remaining on it!  No one is going to buy a firearm they have not at least manually inspected.  So there is variation between state in the matter of gun store procedures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the officer and the shop bear responsibility. </p>
<p>The Officer did not check the pistol before pulling the trigger. </p>
<p>The shop had a loaded pistol in the display.   I&#8217;ve never seen this done, anywhere.  It is obviously unsafe.   In every gun store I&#8217;ve been into, and that&#8217;s a lot, everyone behind the counter had a visible firearm holstered.   The idea that a shop would have loaded weapons in the case, is not consistent with any plan to deter robbery that I can think of.  </p>
<p>I am not an attorney.  But it seems to me that if a clerk hands a loaded firearm to a customer, there might be an issue there given that the customer is now in possession of a loaded firearm.  This depends on local ordinances, state law, etc.  </p>
<p>In one New Jersey sporting goods store I visited, the clerk would not let me handle a revolver without his hands remaining on it!  No one is going to buy a firearm they have not at least manually inspected.  So there is variation between state in the matter of gun store procedures.</p>
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		By: CarLitGuy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CarLitGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, just realized I had an incomplete thought in my post above, must have fallen by the wayside in editing.  Was supposed to read, &quot;Sadly, the police officers in D Owens’ neighborhood handle firearms twice as often as in my old neighborhood, where putting 8 of 10 rounds on a human silhouette at roughly 25 feet &lt;i&gt; ONCE A YEAR was all that was required to certify with their firearm. &lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Apologies for that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, just realized I had an incomplete thought in my post above, must have fallen by the wayside in editing.  Was supposed to read, &#8220;Sadly, the police officers in D Owens’ neighborhood handle firearms twice as often as in my old neighborhood, where putting 8 of 10 rounds on a human silhouette at roughly 25 feet <i> ONCE A YEAR was all that was required to certify with their firearm. </i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Apologies for that.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As the old man used to say, &quot;Keep yer booger-hook off the boom switch&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the old man used to say, &#8220;Keep yer booger-hook off the boom switch&#8221;</p>
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		By: LTMG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The cop shooting his finger off might be an improvement over killing the gun shop owner&#039;s dog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cop shooting his finger off might be an improvement over killing the gun shop owner&#8217;s dog.</p>
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		By: Officer Shoots Finger Off, Sues Store. &#124; Raised On Hoecakes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] our friend Walter Olson at Overlawyered.com comes the story of a police officer from Glasgow, Kentucky who went into a Barren County store called Barren Outdoors. There the [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] our friend Walter Olson at Overlawyered.com comes the story of a police officer from Glasgow, Kentucky who went into a Barren County store called Barren Outdoors. There the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Jamie R ,

&quot;A cop entered a store, saw a dangerous moron with a gun&quot;

I suppose that there could have been a mirror behind the counter, but that would not be typical of the gun stores that I am familiar with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jamie R ,</p>
<p>&#8220;A cop entered a store, saw a dangerous moron with a gun&#8221;</p>
<p>I suppose that there could have been a mirror behind the counter, but that would not be typical of the gun stores that I am familiar with.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Parkhorse,

How do you figure he didn&#039;t violate rule 4?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Parkhorse,</p>
<p>How do you figure he didn&#8217;t violate rule 4?</p>
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		By: Jamie R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 02:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re all missing the big picture here. A cop entered a store, saw a dangerous moron with a gun, and successfully disarmed (or disfingered) him without having to fatally wound anyone. This man is a hero.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re all missing the big picture here. A cop entered a store, saw a dangerous moron with a gun, and successfully disarmed (or disfingered) him without having to fatally wound anyone. This man is a hero.</p>
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