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		By: April 28 roundup - Overlawyered		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Justice Shirley Abrahamson should drop her lawsuit&#8221; [Milwaukee Journal Sentinel editorial, earlier; AP (federal judge declines to block law&#8217;s implementation while suit is [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Justice Shirley Abrahamson should drop her lawsuit&#8221; [Milwaukee Journal Sentinel editorial, earlier; AP (federal judge declines to block law&#8217;s implementation while suit is [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: kimsch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2015 03:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321751&quot;&gt;Dave M.&lt;/a&gt;.

I think she took it to federal court for two reasons. 1) she doesn&#039;t believe that state courts will find in her favor (and she&#039;d have to recuse when it gets to her court - and she doesn&#039;t think she&#039;ll be elected by her peers either) and 2) as the State is a party, it can fall into federal jurisdiction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321751">Dave M.</a>.</p>
<p>I think she took it to federal court for two reasons. 1) she doesn&#8217;t believe that state courts will find in her favor (and she&#8217;d have to recuse when it gets to her court &#8211; and she doesn&#8217;t think she&#8217;ll be elected by her peers either) and 2) as the State is a party, it can fall into federal jurisdiction.</p>
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		By: David C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321756&quot;&gt;Mikesixes&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;She knew the change in the selection process was on the ballot when she ran for reelection. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, actually, she wasn&#039;t the justice up for reelection this year, so that&#039;s not true.  (She actually claims in her lawsuit that she would not have run for reelection several years ago if there would have been a question about whether she would continue to be chief justice.  Frankly, I suspect she perjured herself by claiming this, but that&#039;s impossible to prove.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321756">Mikesixes</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>She knew the change in the selection process was on the ballot when she ran for reelection. </p></blockquote>
<p>No, actually, she wasn&#8217;t the justice up for reelection this year, so that&#8217;s not true.  (She actually claims in her lawsuit that she would not have run for reelection several years ago if there would have been a question about whether she would continue to be chief justice.  Frankly, I suspect she perjured herself by claiming this, but that&#8217;s impossible to prove.)</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321741&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;.

I do that too for the same reasons.  it may be a feeble effort, but that should never stop us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321741">Scott</a>.</p>
<p>I do that too for the same reasons.  it may be a feeble effort, but that should never stop us.</p>
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		By: News for News Notebooks &#124; The Common Room		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[News for News Notebooks &#124; The Common Room]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Wisconsin State Supreme Court Justice hates democracy: [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Wisconsin State Supreme Court Justice hates democracy: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mikesixes		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikesixes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She knew the change in the selection process was on the ballot when she ran for reelection. If she doesn&#039;t want to stay on unless she&#039;s the chief, she should resign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She knew the change in the selection process was on the ballot when she ran for reelection. If she doesn&#8217;t want to stay on unless she&#8217;s the chief, she should resign.</p>
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		By: Rocketeer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocketeer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321746&quot;&gt;arbitrary aardvark&lt;/a&gt;.

The new law does not change how she is &lt;i&gt;elected&lt;/i&gt;; in fact it doesn&#039;t change any election at all.  It simply changes the way the Chief Justice is &lt;i&gt;selected&lt;/i&gt; which is not the same thing.  He suit is just sour grapes, and nothing more substantive than that is involved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321746">arbitrary aardvark</a>.</p>
<p>The new law does not change how she is <i>elected</i>; in fact it doesn&#8217;t change any election at all.  It simply changes the way the Chief Justice is <i>selected</i> which is not the same thing.  He suit is just sour grapes, and nothing more substantive than that is involved.</p>
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		By: Dave M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How does a federal court have subject matter jurisdiction over this issue?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does a federal court have subject matter jurisdiction over this issue?</p>
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		By: red		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/04/wisconsin-this-is-what-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-321750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[--generally changes to how people are elected don’t kick in until the next election.

But this isn’t about how a judge will be elected, it is about how the Chief will be selected among his/her peers. 

In lieu of seniority (no decision by the judges of the court) there will be a new a periodic decision on who should lead the 9.  I can’t imagine that a Federal court really will want to insert itself into a biannual election conducted by 9 people in a room in Madison WI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;generally changes to how people are elected don’t kick in until the next election.</p>
<p>But this isn’t about how a judge will be elected, it is about how the Chief will be selected among his/her peers. </p>
<p>In lieu of seniority (no decision by the judges of the court) there will be a new a periodic decision on who should lead the 9.  I can’t imagine that a Federal court really will want to insert itself into a biannual election conducted by 9 people in a room in Madison WI.</p>
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		By: arbitrary aardvark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arbitrary aardvark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[generally changes to how people are elected don&#039;t kick in until the next election. she has a point, and is likely to win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>generally changes to how people are elected don&#8217;t kick in until the next election. she has a point, and is likely to win.</p>
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