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		By: E-Bell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course Patrick Stewart favors free speech for bakers.  He was, after all, a baker of &quot;erotic&quot; cakes on Saturday Night Live:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sexy-cakes/n10536]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Patrick Stewart favors free speech for bakers.  He was, after all, a baker of &#8220;erotic&#8221; cakes on Saturday Night Live:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sexy-cakes/n10536" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sexy-cakes/n10536</a></p>
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		By: Canvasback		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Canvasback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 22:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CarLitGuy:  Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarLitGuy:  Thank you.</p>
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		By: CarLitGuy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CarLitGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wfjag is mistaken re: the Star Trek series.  Dr. Crusher fell for a Trill, before the Trill changed bodies to a female.  While this appeared to be a common event for Trill, Dr. Crusher found she was not so inclined.  Cisco had previously known the Trill called Dax as a male as well - but later had a relationship with Jadzia Dax (again, mirror universe).  Setting aside the Trill, there was Odo&#039;s race, who are seemingly asexual. Kia Nerys had a lesbian relationship with herself in the mirror universe.  Obviously, Star Trek has a long history of cross-species relationships, beginning with Captain Kirk...

Perhaps he meant a main character who was either gay or lesbian as their primary or exclusive orientation?

I suspect the reality of the Star Fleet culture at large leaned closer to &quot;nobody cares, preferences differ&quot; than no gays or lesbians - at least, by the time of DS9.

Looking behind the curtain, Star Trek&#039;s creator has been quoted discussing his homophobia, and the struggles he had overcoming it to any degree.  Rumor has it, he planned to include at least one LGBT individual in Next Gen, but when he passed, creative control passed to Rick Berman, who (according to various sources) prevented that from occurring - whether from his own views or his beliefs as to what the studio and TV audience would allow is unclear.  Ronald Moore says they simply failed at portraying LGBT individuals, and hints that the studio was sensitive even to seeing crew members in the background holding hands, etc in a way that might suggest their sexuality.

Complicated issue, and in part, a reflection of the times and the medium.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wfjag is mistaken re: the Star Trek series.  Dr. Crusher fell for a Trill, before the Trill changed bodies to a female.  While this appeared to be a common event for Trill, Dr. Crusher found she was not so inclined.  Cisco had previously known the Trill called Dax as a male as well &#8211; but later had a relationship with Jadzia Dax (again, mirror universe).  Setting aside the Trill, there was Odo&#8217;s race, who are seemingly asexual. Kia Nerys had a lesbian relationship with herself in the mirror universe.  Obviously, Star Trek has a long history of cross-species relationships, beginning with Captain Kirk&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps he meant a main character who was either gay or lesbian as their primary or exclusive orientation?</p>
<p>I suspect the reality of the Star Fleet culture at large leaned closer to &#8220;nobody cares, preferences differ&#8221; than no gays or lesbians &#8211; at least, by the time of DS9.</p>
<p>Looking behind the curtain, Star Trek&#8217;s creator has been quoted discussing his homophobia, and the struggles he had overcoming it to any degree.  Rumor has it, he planned to include at least one LGBT individual in Next Gen, but when he passed, creative control passed to Rick Berman, who (according to various sources) prevented that from occurring &#8211; whether from his own views or his beliefs as to what the studio and TV audience would allow is unclear.  Ronald Moore says they simply failed at portraying LGBT individuals, and hints that the studio was sensitive even to seeing crew members in the background holding hands, etc in a way that might suggest their sexuality.</p>
<p>Complicated issue, and in part, a reflection of the times and the medium.</p>
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		By: Canvasback		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Canvasback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wfog. I&#039;m sure they were there, but in the future nobody cares about your orientation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wfog. I&#8217;m sure they were there, but in the future nobody cares about your orientation.</p>
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		By: Wfjag		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wfjag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So Captain Picard decided that the Prime Directive covered the baker. Ever pondered the fact that in all the Star Trek series and movies, there was never a gay or lesbian character? George Takei may be gay, but Captain Sulu had a daughter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Captain Picard decided that the Prime Directive covered the baker. Ever pondered the fact that in all the Star Trek series and movies, there was never a gay or lesbian character? George Takei may be gay, but Captain Sulu had a daughter.</p>
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