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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 04:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/06/nyc-bans-criminal-record-questions-before-job-offer/comment-page-1/#comment-325095&quot;&gt;John Rohan&lt;/a&gt;.

John.

Since no one else has answered...

The original Ford Harrison article says:

&lt;i&gt;Moreover, the Act exempts from coverage police officers, peace officers and certain positions within the Department of Citywide Administrative Services.&lt;/i&gt;

This is confirmed by the actual text of the Act which reads:

&lt;i&gt;10(b)(b) For purposes of this subdivision, &quot;employment&quot; shall not include membership in any law enforcement agency.&lt;/i&gt;

http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/DepartmentDetail.aspx?ID=6897&#038;GUID=CDC6E691-8A8C-4F25-97CB-86F31EDAB081]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/06/nyc-bans-criminal-record-questions-before-job-offer/comment-page-1/#comment-325095">John Rohan</a>.</p>
<p>John.</p>
<p>Since no one else has answered&#8230;</p>
<p>The original Ford Harrison article says:</p>
<p><i>Moreover, the Act exempts from coverage police officers, peace officers and certain positions within the Department of Citywide Administrative Services.</i></p>
<p>This is confirmed by the actual text of the Act which reads:</p>
<p><i>10(b)(b) For purposes of this subdivision, &#8220;employment&#8221; shall not include membership in any law enforcement agency.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/DepartmentDetail.aspx?ID=6897&#038;GUID=CDC6E691-8A8C-4F25-97CB-86F31EDAB081" rel="nofollow ugc">http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/DepartmentDetail.aspx?ID=6897&#038;GUID=CDC6E691-8A8C-4F25-97CB-86F31EDAB081</a></p>
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		By: John Rohan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Rohan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is NYC going to apply this to applications for the police force also?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is NYC going to apply this to applications for the police force also?</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that this will be a boon for lawyers and government agencies.

If a person is offered the job and then the offer is revoked because of the criminal background check turning something up, the law requires that the applicant be given a written statement as to why they were turned down.  The ability to turn someone down is based on several shifting and nebulous criteria all of which are subject to review by people who don&#039;t own businesses and don&#039;t work in a for profit business.  

The sad thing is that with regulations like this, Mr. Olson will never run out of subject matter for this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that this will be a boon for lawyers and government agencies.</p>
<p>If a person is offered the job and then the offer is revoked because of the criminal background check turning something up, the law requires that the applicant be given a written statement as to why they were turned down.  The ability to turn someone down is based on several shifting and nebulous criteria all of which are subject to review by people who don&#8217;t own businesses and don&#8217;t work in a for profit business.  </p>
<p>The sad thing is that with regulations like this, Mr. Olson will never run out of subject matter for this blog.</p>
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		By: Kennon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kennon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most jobs I work, the employer pays for DOJ live scan and in some cases a PI to run a background check. Are those now illegal or is this only pertaining to fast food and retail jobs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most jobs I work, the employer pays for DOJ live scan and in some cases a PI to run a background check. Are those now illegal or is this only pertaining to fast food and retail jobs?</p>
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		By: PaulB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;So why is there this gap on your resume for the last three to five years?&quot;  &quot;You can&#039;t ask me that, it&#039;s against the law for you to do so.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So why is there this gap on your resume for the last three to five years?&#8221;  &#8220;You can&#8217;t ask me that, it&#8217;s against the law for you to do so.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Bill Poser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Poser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how this will affect programs intended to rehabilitate criminals. Not only do various organizations run such programs, but some private employers give preference to ex-cons for certain jobs. Will they now be unable to do so? I see how you can make an offer conditional on the applicant having a clean record; will some employers be put in the weird position of making offers of employment conditional on the applicant having a certain type of criminal record?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how this will affect programs intended to rehabilitate criminals. Not only do various organizations run such programs, but some private employers give preference to ex-cons for certain jobs. Will they now be unable to do so? I see how you can make an offer conditional on the applicant having a clean record; will some employers be put in the weird position of making offers of employment conditional on the applicant having a certain type of criminal record?</p>
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		By: William Nuesslein		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/06/nyc-bans-criminal-record-questions-before-job-offer/comment-page-1/#comment-325049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Nuesslein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Without a regulation, employers have to inquire about criminal matters, as lack of doing so provides easy pickings in case of litigation about any of many matters. That is what discrimination regulation does. It spreads the cost of doing good, providing a chance for a person to earn his own bread in this case, over a large base. It is not to correct wrongs. On the whole, superior workers will be selected no matter what, as not doing so constitutes a tax on offending employers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a regulation, employers have to inquire about criminal matters, as lack of doing so provides easy pickings in case of litigation about any of many matters. That is what discrimination regulation does. It spreads the cost of doing good, providing a chance for a person to earn his own bread in this case, over a large base. It is not to correct wrongs. On the whole, superior workers will be selected no matter what, as not doing so constitutes a tax on offending employers.</p>
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