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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-327005&quot;&gt;Judi&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;In the atmosphere of today’s world I guess it is difficult to call leaving a sleeping child unattended in a car ‘abuse’ (regardless of how many babies die this way)&quot;


Nearly all of the children who die this way are left unattended in a car for hours.  It certainly is all about perspective, but abortion has nothing to do with it.

&quot;A child who made it safely into this world is only in imminent risk of harm if their parent leaves them without fresh air, without heat or cooling as needed, without help, without protection from kidnapping&quot;

The odds of any of any child being harmed in ten minutes under these conditions is barely distinguishable from zero.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-327005">Judi</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the atmosphere of today’s world I guess it is difficult to call leaving a sleeping child unattended in a car ‘abuse’ (regardless of how many babies die this way)&#8221;</p>
<p>Nearly all of the children who die this way are left unattended in a car for hours.  It certainly is all about perspective, but abortion has nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>&#8220;A child who made it safely into this world is only in imminent risk of harm if their parent leaves them without fresh air, without heat or cooling as needed, without help, without protection from kidnapping&#8221;</p>
<p>The odds of any of any child being harmed in ten minutes under these conditions is barely distinguishable from zero.</p>
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		By: Judi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the atmosphere of today&#039;s world I guess it is difficult to call leaving a sleeping child unattended in a car &#039;abuse&#039; (regardless of how many babies die this way) when it is  completely legal and also federally funded for mothers to kill their babies and sell their body parts.  It is apparently all about perspective.  A child who made it safely into this world is only in imminent risk of harm if their parent leaves them without fresh air, without heat or cooling as needed, without help, without protection from kidnapping, and without parental  concern for a time somewhat more than 10 minutes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the atmosphere of today&#8217;s world I guess it is difficult to call leaving a sleeping child unattended in a car &#8216;abuse&#8217; (regardless of how many babies die this way) when it is  completely legal and also federally funded for mothers to kill their babies and sell their body parts.  It is apparently all about perspective.  A child who made it safely into this world is only in imminent risk of harm if their parent leaves them without fresh air, without heat or cooling as needed, without help, without protection from kidnapping, and without parental  concern for a time somewhat more than 10 minutes.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-326934&quot;&gt;DEM&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;It seems to me that the government wants to define gross negligence to mean running any risk at all.&quot;

I agree.  The big problem with this standard is that zero risk is impossible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-326934">DEM</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems to me that the government wants to define gross negligence to mean running any risk at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree.  The big problem with this standard is that zero risk is impossible.</p>
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		By: Hugo S Cunningham		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 20:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NJ Gov and Presidential candidate Christie should be required to declare himself on this case.  Does he support  what his bureaucrats are doing here?  Or will he call them off?  If he lacks authority to call them off, will he call for such authority from his legislature?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ Gov and Presidential candidate Christie should be required to declare himself on this case.  Does he support  what his bureaucrats are doing here?  Or will he call them off?  If he lacks authority to call them off, will he call for such authority from his legislature?</p>
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		By: DEM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DEM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-326929&quot;&gt;SPO&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course a &quot;dangerous and risky situation&quot; is not necessarily &quot;gross neglect.&quot;  Gross neglect is something more than a mere failure to take reasonable care.  It borders on recklessness.  That begs the question, just how &quot;risky&quot; is the decision the Department of Children wants to second guess in this case?  It seems to me that the government wants to define gross negligence to mean running any risk at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2015/08/court-leaving-baby-in-car-for-10-minutes-may-not-be-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-326929">SPO</a>.</p>
<p>Of course a &#8220;dangerous and risky situation&#8221; is not necessarily &#8220;gross neglect.&#8221;  Gross neglect is something more than a mere failure to take reasonable care.  It borders on recklessness.  That begs the question, just how &#8220;risky&#8221; is the decision the Department of Children wants to second guess in this case?  It seems to me that the government wants to define gross negligence to mean running any risk at all.</p>
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		By: No Name Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Name Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Court: Leaving Baby in Car for 10 Minutes May Not Be Abuse”

Duh.  

But of course, how many lawyers got how rich to determine this?  Took me about 2 seconds.]]></description>
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<p>Duh.  </p>
<p>But of course, how many lawyers got how rich to determine this?  Took me about 2 seconds.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the NJ thugocracy:

&quot;A spokesman for the state Department of Children and Families said the agency &#039;looks forward to submitting additional information&#039; to support its finding of gross neglect, saying that &#039;leaving a child alone in a vehicle – even for just a minute – is a dangerous and risky decision.&#039;&quot;

This statement would be hilarious, if it were not so sad.  First of all, leaving a child alone in a car for a minute is not dangerous--at least in any ordinary sense of the word.  And, how does the agency &quot;look forward&quot; to doing this over something that happened years ago?  Is this in the interest of the child?  Nope.  And even if this were a criminal act (which is scary), &quot;gross neglect&quot;?  Really?   

Every single person involved in the persecution of this family needs to be fired.  But it&#039;s more than that--really, if there were any justice in this world, the people responsible for this would spend a decade in prison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NJ thugocracy:</p>
<p>&#8220;A spokesman for the state Department of Children and Families said the agency &#8216;looks forward to submitting additional information&#8217; to support its finding of gross neglect, saying that &#8216;leaving a child alone in a vehicle – even for just a minute – is a dangerous and risky decision.'&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement would be hilarious, if it were not so sad.  First of all, leaving a child alone in a car for a minute is not dangerous&#8211;at least in any ordinary sense of the word.  And, how does the agency &#8220;look forward&#8221; to doing this over something that happened years ago?  Is this in the interest of the child?  Nope.  And even if this were a criminal act (which is scary), &#8220;gross neglect&#8221;?  Really?   </p>
<p>Every single person involved in the persecution of this family needs to be fired.  But it&#8217;s more than that&#8211;really, if there were any justice in this world, the people responsible for this would spend a decade in prison.</p>
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