Comments on: “Think it’s hard to fire a bad teacher? Try a bad corrections officer”

By: markm

markm — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:00:59 +0000

In reply to Peter.

Peter: “if serious about this”

There’s the problem.

By: MattS

MattS — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 23:50:43 +0000

In reply to Bill Poser.

“I also wonder whether prisoners could file civil suits against guards who abuse them”

Only if they can get past qualified immunity. Even then, any damages award would likely be paid by the government.

“and also obtain protective orders”

Very unlikely.

By: Bill Poser

Bill Poser — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:52:35 +0000

In reply to Peter. According to the article, even a misdemeanor assault conviction would not necessarily be grounds for termination! The state really needs to man up and in the next union contract make arbitration decisions reviewable and make non-trivial work-related criminal convictions automatic grounds for termination. I also wonder whether prisoners could file civil suits against guards who abuse them and also obtain protective orders, which would prevent the guard from working in the same part of the prison as the prisoner?

By: delurking

delurking — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:47:34 +0000

The arbitration process is so bad that using it for inmates actually counts as abuse? What happens in these arbitration hearings?

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:41:58 +0000

Given the misbehavior, unlike teachers, one might think NY, if serious about this, would simply skirt the CBA and criminally prosecute ; problem solved.