Comments on: Occupy Malheur and the Bundy boys’ bait

By: Bundy group's claims are non-starters legally - Overlawyered

Bundy group's claims are non-starters legally - Overlawyered — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 05:30:28 +0000

[…] Les Saitz in The Oregonian examines the constitutional land and sovereignty claims of the Malheur occupiers, which tend to sound in what I have previously called folk law. Many in the group were arrested last night. One final point: the Bundy group can call itself a militia if it likes, but only in the same sense that Dorothy Parker could call herself the Queen of Rumania. Earlier here. […]

By: Environment roundup - Overlawyered

Environment roundup - Overlawyered — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:00:18 +0000

[…] lands grazing program look like? [Randal O’Toole, earlier on Malheur refuge occupation here, […]

By: January 15 roundup - Overlawyered

January 15 roundup - Overlawyered — Fri, 15 Jan 2016 12:30:04 +0000

[…] Malheur standoff: here come the self-styled “citizens’ grand jury” hobbyists [Oregonian, my two cents on this branch of folk law, earlier] […]

By: Walter Olson

Walter Olson — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 12:46:19 +0000

In reply to David C. Typo, fixed now, thanks.

By: David C

David C — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 04:17:12 +0000

“including this from 2001”

2001? It wasn’t THAT long ago.

By: Hugo S Cunningham

Hugo S Cunningham — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 04:10:46 +0000

The remote winter location of this clownishness reminds me of the “Occupy Siberia” protest against Soviet policy in the 1930s. The good-natured Soviet government even gave the protesters free transportation and food.

By: gitarcarver

gitarcarver — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 03:26:54 +0000

For kicks I looked up the Oregon law and penalties if the Hammond’s fire had burned non-federal land (either state or privately owned.)

The Hammonds would have been convicted of a Class A misdemeanor which carry a MAXIMUM penalty of 1 year and a $6250 fine. Instead, the penalty they received because the fire burned across a different line on a map was a MINIMUM of five years. Add the five years to the $400,000 fine and I think the penalty is excessive or as the district court said “not proportionate.”.

I agree with you and others that the people that ascended and taken over the BLM building don’t deserve support, but they in my opinion, they definitely deserve contempt.

Furthermore, it should be known that some of the people occupying the area are known to have exaggerated or fabricated their military records. It is hard for me (read: impossible) to even consider backing or supporting those who are perpetrators of stolen valor.