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		By: Gawker Media files for bankruptcy - Overlawyered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gawker Media files for bankruptcy - Overlawyered]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] be.&#8221; [New Yorker] My recent posts on Gawker, Peter Thiel, and paying others to sue are here, here, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] be.&#8221; [New Yorker] My recent posts on Gawker, Peter Thiel, and paying others to sue are here, here, and [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2016 06:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the Gawker decision was well founded, then being a poor myself, the only issue I care about is how it takes a billionaire Thiel to get that decision.

A millionaire like Hogan couldn&#039;t do it.

I never stood a chance.

Josh Marshall thinks he&#039;s a progressive speaking up for the poors, but he&#039;s really only defending his only narrow interests.

The issue isn&#039;t Thiel taking Gawker to court, the rich have always had access. The issue is the denial of the court system to anyone other than millionaires. (Or in this case, billionaires.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Gawker decision was well founded, then being a poor myself, the only issue I care about is how it takes a billionaire Thiel to get that decision.</p>
<p>A millionaire like Hogan couldn&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>I never stood a chance.</p>
<p>Josh Marshall thinks he&#8217;s a progressive speaking up for the poors, but he&#8217;s really only defending his only narrow interests.</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t Thiel taking Gawker to court, the rich have always had access. The issue is the denial of the court system to anyone other than millionaires. (Or in this case, billionaires.)</p>
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		By: Roger Bournival		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Bournival]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 21:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left has been conducting lawfare for decades, on many levels.  Now we have two examples of them being on the wrong end of what they started, and their panties are in a bunch.

Good.  More of it, please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left has been conducting lawfare for decades, on many levels.  Now we have two examples of them being on the wrong end of what they started, and their panties are in a bunch.</p>
<p>Good.  More of it, please.</p>
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		By: Paul McKaskle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul McKaskle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have never seen Gawker so I cannot comment on its content.  But I am concerned that there has no comment about the huge amount of the damages awarded.  From what I can tell it was for &quot;actual&quot; damages, not punitive damages (and was in an amount much higher than the plaintiff requested.  

There is now some limit on punitive damages which have to have some relationship to the actual damages and a relationship to the defendants wealth.  But if &quot;actual&quot; damages for intangible &quot;injuries&quot; such as invasion of privacy can be in unlimited amounts, including far exceeding the wealth of the defendant, it becomes a de facto punitive damages award.  

I have no problem with damage awards based on actual injuries, be it medical costs, loss of income or property and even some allowance for the intangibles that accompany the actual injuries such as pain and suffering.  And I have no problem with an invasion of privacy claim which has resulted in embarrassment or even financial loss to a victim.  But it is troubling, to say the least, when a jury can unilaterally decide to award almost unlimited amounts of money (free of any limitations of &quot;punitive damages&quot;) against a defendant whom it decides to dislike.  Surely there should be some limit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen Gawker so I cannot comment on its content.  But I am concerned that there has no comment about the huge amount of the damages awarded.  From what I can tell it was for &#8220;actual&#8221; damages, not punitive damages (and was in an amount much higher than the plaintiff requested.  </p>
<p>There is now some limit on punitive damages which have to have some relationship to the actual damages and a relationship to the defendants wealth.  But if &#8220;actual&#8221; damages for intangible &#8220;injuries&#8221; such as invasion of privacy can be in unlimited amounts, including far exceeding the wealth of the defendant, it becomes a de facto punitive damages award.  </p>
<p>I have no problem with damage awards based on actual injuries, be it medical costs, loss of income or property and even some allowance for the intangibles that accompany the actual injuries such as pain and suffering.  And I have no problem with an invasion of privacy claim which has resulted in embarrassment or even financial loss to a victim.  But it is troubling, to say the least, when a jury can unilaterally decide to award almost unlimited amounts of money (free of any limitations of &#8220;punitive damages&#8221;) against a defendant whom it decides to dislike.  Surely there should be some limit.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again, the best way to discredit and change a bad law or policy is to enforce it vigorously and equally against everyone...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, the best way to discredit and change a bad law or policy is to enforce it vigorously and equally against everyone&#8230;</p>
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		By: asdfasdf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asdfasdf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 16:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Gawker verdict was not some outlier made by a runaway jury: the verdict accurately and fairly represents the sensibility of the vast majority of people who are viscerally repelled by Gawker&#039;s conduct. 

Because Gawker&#039;s journalistic practices are widely viewed as despicable and abusive, Thiel&#039;s funding the lawsuit in this case would be generally viewed as being an appropriate way for Gawker&#039;s victims to get justice. After all, it&#039;s the only way these victims could afford the cost of the litigation. 

Therefore, I think it is not a good idea to use that case as some kind of argument against 3d party lawsuit funding. Most people would find the case supports the necessity and propriety of such funding, whatever the actual long-term negative consequences would be. I suggest finding a more sympathetic defendant (which would be virtually any other civil defendant).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gawker verdict was not some outlier made by a runaway jury: the verdict accurately and fairly represents the sensibility of the vast majority of people who are viscerally repelled by Gawker&#8217;s conduct. </p>
<p>Because Gawker&#8217;s journalistic practices are widely viewed as despicable and abusive, Thiel&#8217;s funding the lawsuit in this case would be generally viewed as being an appropriate way for Gawker&#8217;s victims to get justice. After all, it&#8217;s the only way these victims could afford the cost of the litigation. </p>
<p>Therefore, I think it is not a good idea to use that case as some kind of argument against 3d party lawsuit funding. Most people would find the case supports the necessity and propriety of such funding, whatever the actual long-term negative consequences would be. I suggest finding a more sympathetic defendant (which would be virtually any other civil defendant).</p>
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		By: Shtetl G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shtetl G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is a little rich that these new found opponents of maintenance (thanks for primer earlier) in the media are coming out of the wood works now that their phony baloney jobs are under threat.  Most likely they will seek their own carve out rather then any serious introspection occurring on these practices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a little rich that these new found opponents of maintenance (thanks for primer earlier) in the media are coming out of the wood works now that their phony baloney jobs are under threat.  Most likely they will seek their own carve out rather then any serious introspection occurring on these practices.</p>
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		By: Gasman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gasman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Champerty is the illegal buying into another&#039;s lawsuit.   But how is that different than a lawyer working on commission.   
Seems that illegal is defined as a payday for someone outside the bar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Champerty is the illegal buying into another&#8217;s lawsuit.   But how is that different than a lawyer working on commission.<br />
Seems that illegal is defined as a payday for someone outside the bar.</p>
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		By: Annie Logue		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie Logue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 12:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This case is really disturbing, as even a run-of-the-mill nuisance libel suit is expensive. More and more reporting is done by bloggers and freelancers, who often can&#039;t afford to pay lawyers to go through the convoluted system. Anti-SLAAP is nice, in a way, but simply receiving the judgment doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;ll receive the money, and you&#039;ll still have to pay someone to collect it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is really disturbing, as even a run-of-the-mill nuisance libel suit is expensive. More and more reporting is done by bloggers and freelancers, who often can&#8217;t afford to pay lawyers to go through the convoluted system. Anti-SLAAP is nice, in a way, but simply receiving the judgment doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;ll receive the money, and you&#8217;ll still have to pay someone to collect it.</p>
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