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		By: Brexit, toasters, and teakettles - Overlawyered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brexit, toasters, and teakettles - Overlawyered]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] fear of fueling Leave sentiment among British voters. Now I suppose it&#8217;s ban away [Telegraph, earlier on [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2016 04:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-338011&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

@Bill H.

The crap part was out of line, but the cheap part isn&#039;t.  They couldn&#039;t make a price point affordable by the masses in India if they had to comply with US/EU safety regulations.

I don&#039;t know much about their production cars, but I once saw a detailed concept design from Tata for a Compressed air powered car.  Nearly the entire vehicle (including the pressure cylinder) was to be made out of carbon fiber composites with the components held together by glue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-338011">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>@Bill H.</p>
<p>The crap part was out of line, but the cheap part isn&#8217;t.  They couldn&#8217;t make a price point affordable by the masses in India if they had to comply with US/EU safety regulations.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about their production cars, but I once saw a detailed concept design from Tata for a Compressed air powered car.  Nearly the entire vehicle (including the pressure cylinder) was to be made out of carbon fiber composites with the components held together by glue.</p>
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		By: Bill H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-338011&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow. That was really snotty. Do you perhaps have anything to address the original question? 

I note you&#039;ve graciously allowed how a &quot;cheap crap&quot; Tata 4-wheeler is better than a generic 2-wheeler. Yah- affordability is a problem for that family. A Tata Nano Gen X is 2.08 Lakh, or approximately $4100.00, delivered in New Delhi.. A Jaguar XE is about 20X that, at 39.9 Lakh for the very cheapest one, delivered in New Delhi. 

That family doesn&#039;t have the luxury of your smugness, Matt. At 4100.00,  they have a solution to their problem in reach. They aren&#039;t worried about active safety, 12 airbags and reversing cameras. They&#039;re worried about getting from point A to point B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-338011">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>Wow. That was really snotty. Do you perhaps have anything to address the original question? </p>
<p>I note you&#8217;ve graciously allowed how a &#8220;cheap crap&#8221; Tata 4-wheeler is better than a generic 2-wheeler. Yah- affordability is a problem for that family. A Tata Nano Gen X is 2.08 Lakh, or approximately $4100.00, delivered in New Delhi.. A Jaguar XE is about 20X that, at 39.9 Lakh for the very cheapest one, delivered in New Delhi. </p>
<p>That family doesn&#8217;t have the luxury of your smugness, Matt. At 4100.00,  they have a solution to their problem in reach. They aren&#8217;t worried about active safety, 12 airbags and reversing cameras. They&#8217;re worried about getting from point A to point B.</p>
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		By: Bob Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337970&quot;&gt;Another Guy named Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

Not at present. There ARE plenty of Americans who would love to see an Anglosphere take shape. The problem is that such people have no influence over the current Administration. The good news is that the current Administration has only a few months left, and either of the wretched candidates on offer (sorry world) would be better; they are merely unqualified and corrupt. The current bunch does not LIKE the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337970">Another Guy named Dan</a>.</p>
<p>Not at present. There ARE plenty of Americans who would love to see an Anglosphere take shape. The problem is that such people have no influence over the current Administration. The good news is that the current Administration has only a few months left, and either of the wretched candidates on offer (sorry world) would be better; they are merely unqualified and corrupt. The current bunch does not LIKE the country.</p>
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		By: A. L. Green		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. L. Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2016 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-338002&quot;&gt;Boblipton&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny and apt. Thank you for posting it.]]></description>
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<p>Funny and apt. Thank you for posting it.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337993&quot;&gt;Bill H&lt;/a&gt;.

Because Tatas are cheap crap that couldn&#039;t pass safety regulations anywhere else.  

On the other hand, as bad as they are, they are still a safety improvement over a family of 8 trying to all ride on one motor scooter (I&#039;ve seen video of this) and many Indian families wouldn&#039;t be able to afford better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337993">Bill H</a>.</p>
<p>Because Tatas are cheap crap that couldn&#8217;t pass safety regulations anywhere else.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, as bad as they are, they are still a safety improvement over a family of 8 trying to all ride on one motor scooter (I&#8217;ve seen video of this) and many Indian families wouldn&#8217;t be able to afford better.</p>
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		By: Boblipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boblipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many years ago, Noel Coward wrote (and sang)
 

Verse 1

They&#039;re out of sorts in Sunderland
And terribly cross in Kent,
They&#039;re dull in Hull
And the Isle of Mull
Is seething with discontent,
They&#039;re nervous in Northumberland
And Devon is down the drain,
They&#039;re filled with wrath
On the firth of Forth
And sullen on Salisbury Plain,
In Dublin they&#039;re depressed, lads,
Maybe because they&#039;re Celts
For Drake is going West, lads,
And so is everyone else.
Hurray-hurray-hurray!
Misery&#039;s here to stay.

Refrain 1

There are bad times just around the corner,
There are dark clouds hurtling through the sky
And it&#039;s no good whining
About a silver lining
For we know from experience that they won&#039;t roll by,
With a scowl and a frown
We&#039;ll keep our peckers down
And prepare for depression and doom and dread,
We&#039;re going to unpack our troubles from our old kit bag
And wait until we drop down dead.

Verse 2

From Portland Bill to Scarborough
They&#039;re querulous and subdued
And Shropshire lads
Have behaved like cads
From Berwick-on-Tweed to Bude,
They&#039;re mad at Market Harborough
And livid at Leigh-on-Sea,
In Tunbridge Wells
You can hear the yells
Of woe-begone bourgeoisie.
We all get bitched about, lads,
Whoever our vote elects,
We know we&#039;re up the spout, lads.
And that&#039;s what England expects.
Hurray-hurray-hurray!
Trouble is on the way.

Refrain 2

There are bad times just around the corner,
The horizon&#039;s gloomy as can be,
There are black birds over
The grayish cliffs of Dover
And the rats are preparing to leave the B.B.C.
We&#039;re an unhappy breed
And very bored indeed
When reminded of something that Nelson said.
While the press and the politicians nag nag nag
We&#039;ll wait until we drop down dead.

Verse 3

From Colwyn Bay to Kettering
They&#039;re sobbing themselves to sleep,
The shrieks and wails
In the Yorkshire dales
Have even depressed the sheep.
In rather vulgar lettering
A very disgruntled group
Have posted bills
On the Cotswold Hills
To prove that we&#039;re in the soup.
While begging Kipling&#039;s pardon
There&#039;s one thing we know for sure
If England is a garden
We ought to have more manure.
Hurray-hurray-hurray!
Suffering and dismay.

Refrain 3

There are bad times just around the corner
And the outlook&#039;s absolutely vile,
There are Home Fires smoking
From Windermere to Woking
And we&#039;re not going to tighten our belts and smile, smile, smile,
At the sound of a shot
We&#039;d just as soon as not
Take a hot water bottle and go to bed,
We&#039;re going to untense our muscles till they sag sag sag
And wait until we drop down dead.

Refrain 4

There are bad times just around the corner,
We can all look forward to despair,
It&#039;s as clear as crystal
From Bridlington to Bristol
That we can&#039;t save democracy and we don&#039;t much care
If the Reds and the Pinks
Believe that England stinks
And that world revolution is bound to spread,
We&#039;d better all learn the lyrics of the old &#039;Red Flag&#039;
And wait until we drop down dead.
A likely story
Land of Hope and Glory,
Wait until we drop down dead.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, Noel Coward wrote (and sang)</p>
<p>Verse 1</p>
<p>They&#8217;re out of sorts in Sunderland<br />
And terribly cross in Kent,<br />
They&#8217;re dull in Hull<br />
And the Isle of Mull<br />
Is seething with discontent,<br />
They&#8217;re nervous in Northumberland<br />
And Devon is down the drain,<br />
They&#8217;re filled with wrath<br />
On the firth of Forth<br />
And sullen on Salisbury Plain,<br />
In Dublin they&#8217;re depressed, lads,<br />
Maybe because they&#8217;re Celts<br />
For Drake is going West, lads,<br />
And so is everyone else.<br />
Hurray-hurray-hurray!<br />
Misery&#8217;s here to stay.</p>
<p>Refrain 1</p>
<p>There are bad times just around the corner,<br />
There are dark clouds hurtling through the sky<br />
And it&#8217;s no good whining<br />
About a silver lining<br />
For we know from experience that they won&#8217;t roll by,<br />
With a scowl and a frown<br />
We&#8217;ll keep our peckers down<br />
And prepare for depression and doom and dread,<br />
We&#8217;re going to unpack our troubles from our old kit bag<br />
And wait until we drop down dead.</p>
<p>Verse 2</p>
<p>From Portland Bill to Scarborough<br />
They&#8217;re querulous and subdued<br />
And Shropshire lads<br />
Have behaved like cads<br />
From Berwick-on-Tweed to Bude,<br />
They&#8217;re mad at Market Harborough<br />
And livid at Leigh-on-Sea,<br />
In Tunbridge Wells<br />
You can hear the yells<br />
Of woe-begone bourgeoisie.<br />
We all get bitched about, lads,<br />
Whoever our vote elects,<br />
We know we&#8217;re up the spout, lads.<br />
And that&#8217;s what England expects.<br />
Hurray-hurray-hurray!<br />
Trouble is on the way.</p>
<p>Refrain 2</p>
<p>There are bad times just around the corner,<br />
The horizon&#8217;s gloomy as can be,<br />
There are black birds over<br />
The grayish cliffs of Dover<br />
And the rats are preparing to leave the B.B.C.<br />
We&#8217;re an unhappy breed<br />
And very bored indeed<br />
When reminded of something that Nelson said.<br />
While the press and the politicians nag nag nag<br />
We&#8217;ll wait until we drop down dead.</p>
<p>Verse 3</p>
<p>From Colwyn Bay to Kettering<br />
They&#8217;re sobbing themselves to sleep,<br />
The shrieks and wails<br />
In the Yorkshire dales<br />
Have even depressed the sheep.<br />
In rather vulgar lettering<br />
A very disgruntled group<br />
Have posted bills<br />
On the Cotswold Hills<br />
To prove that we&#8217;re in the soup.<br />
While begging Kipling&#8217;s pardon<br />
There&#8217;s one thing we know for sure<br />
If England is a garden<br />
We ought to have more manure.<br />
Hurray-hurray-hurray!<br />
Suffering and dismay.</p>
<p>Refrain 3</p>
<p>There are bad times just around the corner<br />
And the outlook&#8217;s absolutely vile,<br />
There are Home Fires smoking<br />
From Windermere to Woking<br />
And we&#8217;re not going to tighten our belts and smile, smile, smile,<br />
At the sound of a shot<br />
We&#8217;d just as soon as not<br />
Take a hot water bottle and go to bed,<br />
We&#8217;re going to untense our muscles till they sag sag sag<br />
And wait until we drop down dead.</p>
<p>Refrain 4</p>
<p>There are bad times just around the corner,<br />
We can all look forward to despair,<br />
It&#8217;s as clear as crystal<br />
From Bridlington to Bristol<br />
That we can&#8217;t save democracy and we don&#8217;t much care<br />
If the Reds and the Pinks<br />
Believe that England stinks<br />
And that world revolution is bound to spread,<br />
We&#8217;d better all learn the lyrics of the old &#8216;Red Flag&#8217;<br />
And wait until we drop down dead.<br />
A likely story<br />
Land of Hope and Glory,<br />
Wait until we drop down dead.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Bill H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 06:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337968&quot;&gt;Fox2!&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes- Jaguar and Rover.However, Tata is playing it smart, and allowing the two companies to remain as British as possible. You won&#039;t see a Tata plant building Jag badged cars, and Tata is strictly an Indian market product.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/fog-channel-lifts-continent-cut-off/comment-page-1/#comment-337968">Fox2!</a>.</p>
<p>Yes- Jaguar and Rover.However, Tata is playing it smart, and allowing the two companies to remain as British as possible. You won&#8217;t see a Tata plant building Jag badged cars, and Tata is strictly an Indian market product.</p>
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		By: Hugo S. Cunningham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S. Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 04:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Much of the EU&#039;s unpopularity came from courts that fostered jihadists and other sociopaths.  The Tories should have had Parliament assert a sovereign right to overrule the courts in certain cases, notably the deportation of spies and traitors.  Admittedly, that would have been a violation of EU treaties, grounds to kick Britain out of the EU.  Nevertheless, I suspect Britain would have had enough sympathizers on the continent to get away with it.  By then, domestic opposition to EU membership would have been manageable.  (As most of you know, Britain does not have a written constitution requiring Parliament to defer to courts.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the EU&#8217;s unpopularity came from courts that fostered jihadists and other sociopaths.  The Tories should have had Parliament assert a sovereign right to overrule the courts in certain cases, notably the deportation of spies and traitors.  Admittedly, that would have been a violation of EU treaties, grounds to kick Britain out of the EU.  Nevertheless, I suspect Britain would have had enough sympathizers on the continent to get away with it.  By then, domestic opposition to EU membership would have been manageable.  (As most of you know, Britain does not have a written constitution requiring Parliament to defer to courts.)</p>
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		By: Fox2!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fox2!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 00:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Ulstermen are actually talking about (re)joining the Republic of Ireland so they can stay in the EU. 

Ian Paisley is rolling in his grave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ulstermen are actually talking about (re)joining the Republic of Ireland so they can stay in the EU. </p>
<p>Ian Paisley is rolling in his grave.</p>
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