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	Comments on: The furor over Judge Persky&#8217;s sentence	</title>
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		By: Bill H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill H]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I also don’t think it matters whether it is 1.2 million or 1.2 thousand signatures. We all can agree that, correctly or incorrectly, a lot of people were outraged by this sentence.&lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely. But I don&#039;t appreciate the thought of someone in Florida selecting judges for me. I don&#039;t know on exactly what bench Judge Persky sits. However, it is a California state bench, and we have procedures in place to remove/recall judges. The out-of-staters can be as outraged as they like. They still have nothing to say here. 

Personally, I want to see and hear more of the Judge&#039;s record before I call for his head. It was a boneheaded sentencing arrangement, but if Persky has a track record of this sort of thing, It&#039;ll show up soon enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I also don’t think it matters whether it is 1.2 million or 1.2 thousand signatures. We all can agree that, correctly or incorrectly, a lot of people were outraged by this sentence.</i></p>
<p>Absolutely. But I don&#8217;t appreciate the thought of someone in Florida selecting judges for me. I don&#8217;t know on exactly what bench Judge Persky sits. However, it is a California state bench, and we have procedures in place to remove/recall judges. The out-of-staters can be as outraged as they like. They still have nothing to say here. </p>
<p>Personally, I want to see and hear more of the Judge&#8217;s record before I call for his head. It was a boneheaded sentencing arrangement, but if Persky has a track record of this sort of thing, It&#8217;ll show up soon enough.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337839&quot;&gt;Ron Miller&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;You don’t need to have knowledge of the law or California sentencing procedures or anything else. &quot;

If you are going to opine on the appropriateness of a criminal sentence, you ought to at least have an understanding of what the defendant actually did and what he was convicted of.

You probably think rape, which would be wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337839">Ron Miller</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;You don’t need to have knowledge of the law or California sentencing procedures or anything else. &#8221;</p>
<p>If you are going to opine on the appropriateness of a criminal sentence, you ought to at least have an understanding of what the defendant actually did and what he was convicted of.</p>
<p>You probably think rape, which would be wrong.</p>
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		By: Ron Miller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think six months is too light.  I think three years would have been more reasonable.  

I also don&#039;t think it matters whether it is 1.2 million or 1.2 thousand signatures.  We all can agree that, correctly or incorrectly, a lot of people were outraged by this sentence.  

The kid&#039;s dad foolishly fueled the fire with that idiotic letter.  But I&#039;m not going to throw many stones on a father&#039;s effort to protect this son.  

You don&#039;t need to have knowledge of the law or California sentencing procedures or anything else.  Everyone has an opinion and every single person offering an opinion is qualifed to give one, including those people that disagree with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think six months is too light.  I think three years would have been more reasonable.  </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think it matters whether it is 1.2 million or 1.2 thousand signatures.  We all can agree that, correctly or incorrectly, a lot of people were outraged by this sentence.  </p>
<p>The kid&#8217;s dad foolishly fueled the fire with that idiotic letter.  But I&#8217;m not going to throw many stones on a father&#8217;s effort to protect this son.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to have knowledge of the law or California sentencing procedures or anything else.  Everyone has an opinion and every single person offering an opinion is qualifed to give one, including those people that disagree with me.</p>
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		By: Darleen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The media coverage has fueled outrage since no one seems to either 1) know the facts of the sentencing 2) understand sentencing procedure in CA

Yes, a judge does have the discretion to sentence (within guidelines) even if it means not following the probation report. However, there is a reason for the pre-sentencing report, especially when there are victims. The victim(s) are interviewed, any impact for restitution is assessed. In addition they do interview the defendant, too (if def agrees).

These reports aren&#039;t frivolous. And even though this perp will only do 6 mos jail, he will be registering as a sex offender (PC290) &#038; monitored by law enforcement for the rest of his life*.

Judges do review the reports prior to PJ. They give a lot of weight to Probation&#039;s recommendations because of the investigative process they do.


*depending on his registration classification he MAY be eligible to get off registry but it is a long process that can only take place about 7-10 years done the road. Or maybe never.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media coverage has fueled outrage since no one seems to either 1) know the facts of the sentencing 2) understand sentencing procedure in CA</p>
<p>Yes, a judge does have the discretion to sentence (within guidelines) even if it means not following the probation report. However, there is a reason for the pre-sentencing report, especially when there are victims. The victim(s) are interviewed, any impact for restitution is assessed. In addition they do interview the defendant, too (if def agrees).</p>
<p>These reports aren&#8217;t frivolous. And even though this perp will only do 6 mos jail, he will be registering as a sex offender (PC290) &amp; monitored by law enforcement for the rest of his life*.</p>
<p>Judges do review the reports prior to PJ. They give a lot of weight to Probation&#8217;s recommendations because of the investigative process they do.</p>
<p>*depending on his registration classification he MAY be eligible to get off registry but it is a long process that can only take place about 7-10 years done the road. Or maybe never.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337653&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;It seems that people who object to the sentence are not interested in discussing why that sentence may have been imposed, or the pros and cons of a more severe or less severe sentence.&quot;

From what I have seen, they aren&#039;t even interested in discussing what the defendant actually did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337653">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems that people who object to the sentence are not interested in discussing why that sentence may have been imposed, or the pros and cons of a more severe or less severe sentence.&#8221;</p>
<p>From what I have seen, they aren&#8217;t even interested in discussing what the defendant actually did.</p>
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		By: Parkhorse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parkhorse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Bill: The petition was &lt;i&gt;started&lt;/i&gt; by someone from Miami, and change.org doesn&#039;t restrict by state, or indeed by country. There&#039;s no verification of email, and the simple expedient of clicking, &quot;logout&quot; lets you sign again with a different, fake email.

So... first what percentage are real, unique people, then what percentage of those are US based, then cut it down to California specifically... it&#039;s not 1.2 million unique Californians, I can guarantee that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill: The petition was <i>started</i> by someone from Miami, and change.org doesn&#8217;t restrict by state, or indeed by country. There&#8217;s no verification of email, and the simple expedient of clicking, &#8220;logout&#8221; lets you sign again with a different, fake email.</p>
<p>So&#8230; first what percentage are real, unique people, then what percentage of those are US based, then cut it down to California specifically&#8230; it&#8217;s not 1.2 million unique Californians, I can guarantee that.</p>
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		By: Boblipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boblipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337647&quot;&gt;Paul McKaskle&lt;/a&gt;.

true enough. However, if the probation report were all, then why have the judge involved at all?  If the judge is involved, isn&#039;t it up to him to , you know, judge what to do?

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337647">Paul McKaskle</a>.</p>
<p>true enough. However, if the probation report were all, then why have the judge involved at all?  If the judge is involved, isn&#8217;t it up to him to , you know, judge what to do?</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: DavidRD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidRD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337647&quot;&gt;Paul McKaskle&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul makes an excellent point. In addition, it wasn&#039;t rape, despite what many people think. He wasn&#039;t tried for rape. Convicted of rape. Or sentenced for rape. But rather 3 sex assault felonies other than rape. That call for shorter sentences. Plus - has anyone noticed that the judge is a former sex crimes prosecutor?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/06/persky-sentence-brock-turner/comment-page-1/#comment-337647">Paul McKaskle</a>.</p>
<p>Paul makes an excellent point. In addition, it wasn&#8217;t rape, despite what many people think. He wasn&#8217;t tried for rape. Convicted of rape. Or sentenced for rape. But rather 3 sex assault felonies other than rape. That call for shorter sentences. Plus &#8211; has anyone noticed that the judge is a former sex crimes prosecutor?</p>
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		By: Bill H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a little curious to know how many of those million+ signatures are California residents.The reason why I ask is, this is a state thing. Someone in Montana or New Jersey can be as outraged as they like, but they have no say in handling the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little curious to know how many of those million+ signatures are California residents.The reason why I ask is, this is a state thing. Someone in Montana or New Jersey can be as outraged as they like, but they have no say in handling the problem.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that people who object to the sentence are not interested in discussing why that sentence may have been imposed, or the pros and cons of a more severe or less severe sentence.  It is an article of faith that the sentence was WRONG and the judge should be whipped through the streets for imposing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that people who object to the sentence are not interested in discussing why that sentence may have been imposed, or the pros and cons of a more severe or less severe sentence.  It is an article of faith that the sentence was WRONG and the judge should be whipped through the streets for imposing it.</p>
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