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		By: More great moments in public employee unionism - Overlawyered		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] That Friday tale from the Washington, D.C. Metro system was just the start. &#8220;The North Miami police officer who shot an unarmed, black mental health worker caring for a patient actually took aim at the autistic man next to him, but missed, the head of the police union said Thursday.&#8221; [Miami Herald] Meanwhile, in Oregon, a gross-receipts tax proposal backed by public employee unions and schools lobby could spell the end for Powell&#8217;s Books of Portland. [Interview with Emily Powell on Measure 97, Business Tribune] [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] That Friday tale from the Washington, D.C. Metro system was just the start. &#8220;The North Miami police officer who shot an unarmed, black mental health worker caring for a patient actually took aim at the autistic man next to him, but missed, the head of the police union said Thursday.&#8221; [Miami Herald] Meanwhile, in Oregon, a gross-receipts tax proposal backed by public employee unions and schools lobby could spell the end for Powell&#8217;s Books of Portland. [Interview with Emily Powell on Measure 97, Business Tribune] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Hugo S Cunningham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It looks like criminal prosecution is essential.  If the guy is sent to prison, presumably he can be fired for not showing up at work.  One could offer a pre-trial diversion if he resigns from the job.  (One would need to reserve the ability to restart the prosecution if an arbitrator threw out the resignation.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like criminal prosecution is essential.  If the guy is sent to prison, presumably he can be fired for not showing up at work.  One could offer a pre-trial diversion if he resigns from the job.  (One would need to reserve the ability to restart the prosecution if an arbitrator threw out the resignation.)</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/07/great-moments-public-employee-unionism/comment-page-1/#comment-338977&quot;&gt;Noncenx&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;So, what DOES he have to do to lose his job?&quot;

Be convicted for a felony level crime committed on the job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/07/great-moments-public-employee-unionism/comment-page-1/#comment-338977">Noncenx</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, what DOES he have to do to lose his job?&#8221;</p>
<p>Be convicted for a felony level crime committed on the job.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/07/great-moments-public-employee-unionism/comment-page-1/#comment-338977&quot;&gt;Noncenx&lt;/a&gt;.

And of course the real problem becomes that the Metro can never fire anyone for falsifying records because the defense to the arbitrator will always be &quot;the other guys do it and another arbitrator said he couldn&#039;t be fired.&quot;

The Metro is stuck with employees that lie, put people in danger and can&#039;t be fired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2016/07/great-moments-public-employee-unionism/comment-page-1/#comment-338977">Noncenx</a>.</p>
<p>And of course the real problem becomes that the Metro can never fire anyone for falsifying records because the defense to the arbitrator will always be &#8220;the other guys do it and another arbitrator said he couldn&#8217;t be fired.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Metro is stuck with employees that lie, put people in danger and can&#8217;t be fired.</p>
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		By: Noncenx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok, he falsifies the safety checks, 3 people die and not only is he not arrested, he gets his job back? 

Normally the response would be, &quot;what does he have to do, kill someone&quot;.  But that didn&#039;t work.  So, what DOES he have to do to lose his job?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, he falsifies the safety checks, 3 people die and not only is he not arrested, he gets his job back? </p>
<p>Normally the response would be, &#8220;what does he have to do, kill someone&#8221;.  But that didn&#8217;t work.  So, what DOES he have to do to lose his job?</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Labor arbitration and other varieties of arbitration are about as similar to each other as lightning and a lightning bug, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labor arbitration and other varieties of arbitration are about as similar to each other as lightning and a lightning bug, though.</p>
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		By: VMS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VMS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who tout arbitration as alternative dispute resolution are not happy when they get burned by a bad decision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who tout arbitration as alternative dispute resolution are not happy when they get burned by a bad decision.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The real problem--once the smoke clears and the dust settles, this cautionary tale won&#039;t change any behaviors on the part of management, and it&#039;s likely they won&#039;t fight hard to keep from having to reinstate this guy.  

Creative idea: Metro could do its own ads outlining these sorts of things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem&#8211;once the smoke clears and the dust settles, this cautionary tale won&#8217;t change any behaviors on the part of management, and it&#8217;s likely they won&#8217;t fight hard to keep from having to reinstate this guy.  </p>
<p>Creative idea: Metro could do its own ads outlining these sorts of things.</p>
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