Comments on: When do sleazy nightclub tricks add up to federal wire fraud?

By: Ron Miller

Ron Miller — Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:57:30 +0000

Is this definately a strip club? I was imagining a regular bar. Why would these guys be thinking the Russian tourists would want to go to a strip bar?

By: Allan

Allan — Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:24:32 +0000

In reply to Walter Olson.

A valid point. Perhaps the trouble was with the tense, not the word.

how about: “if you, by chance, through no fault of your own, were to find yourself in a strip club, and you thought about economic theories, which you would always do should you have mistakenly entered such an institution….

By: MattS

MattS — Tue, 19 Jul 2016 06:28:56 +0000

In reply to Allan.

“But, of course, when you go to the strip club, you assume that the women are on the owners’ payrolls. I am not sure that makes much of a difference.”

Actually, from what I have read, they mostly work as independent/sub contractors.

This allows the women to circulate from club to club. The women get more exposure and the clubs get to not have the same dancers constantly.

By: MattS

MattS — Tue, 19 Jul 2016 06:22:33 +0000

In reply to Allan.

” Should the activities engaged in by the bar be illegal?”

I am inclined to say no, and even if the answer is yes, it shouldn’t be an issue for the Feds.

By: Walter Olson

Walter Olson — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:40:45 +0000

In reply to Allan. >when you go to the strip club, you assume that the women are on the owners’ payrolls We need to clarify the use of "you" here.

By: Allan

Allan — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:07:28 +0000

Regardless of the state of the current law… Should the activities engaged in by the bar be illegal? Or should we just go with caveat emptor and a fool and his money are soon parted? And how is this different from what many strip clubs do? I mean, come on, the women in both cases are basically putting their assets up for bidding. But, of course, when you go to the strip club, you assume that the women are on the owners’ payrolls. I am not sure that makes much of a difference.

By: Ron Miller

Ron Miller — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:05:58 +0000

This highlights the risk of shooting for the moon when asking for jury instructions.

By: WRT

WRT — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:42:12 +0000

Love the ” Casablanca Defense” reference