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	Comments on: Mandated conservation in your bath, kitchen, and HVAC	</title>
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		By: Xmas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xmas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My favorite part about the shower head flow restrictions is how many multi-head shower faucets you can find now.  Each head meets the restricted flow requirements, but by fiddling with the controls, you get multiple heads going at the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part about the shower head flow restrictions is how many multi-head shower faucets you can find now.  Each head meets the restricted flow requirements, but by fiddling with the controls, you get multiple heads going at the same time.</p>
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		By: Boblipton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boblipton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You mean Other Peoples&#039; Money, don&#039;t you?

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean Other Peoples&#8217; Money, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Jerryskids		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone pointed out, the EU upset the Brits with their requirement that electric kettles have lower wattage heating elements for &quot;efficiency&quot;, which displays not just an indifference to what people want but an indifference to the laws of thermodynamics. Low-flow toilets you have to flush two or three times, washing machines and dishwashers you cycle through an extra rinse, showers you spend an extra five minutes in - these all use more water than there &quot;inefficient&quot; counterparts. 
  
But, just to use the EPA as an example, remember how dirty out air and water were 50, 60 years ago? The EPA had a mandate to make our environment cleaner.  As much as they&#039;ve done, you&#039;d think the EPA&#039;s job would be easier and cheaper - maybe even at some point they might look around and say &quot;that&#039;s good enough&quot; and they could all pack up and go home - but, no, it&#039;s even harder now. That&#039;s because &quot;cleaner&quot; is a never-ending job and the cleaner you make it the more it takes to get it even cleaner. There&#039;s a law of diminishing returns there, but unfortunately money&#039;s no object to these people and there&#039;s no sacrifice so great that they&#039;re not perfectly willing for other people to make it. 
  
Look at Trump&#039;s complaints about other countries stealing our manufacturing jobs - it&#039;s nice to have the EPA and OSHA and the DoL making sure we all have nice, clean, safe, good-paying jobs with all the benefits, but that means all the low-skill, dirty, dangerous, labor-intensive jobs moved to China and Mexico. Our lifestyle and our expectations have a cost, but nobody&#039;s ever sat down and discussed the price and whether or not we thought we were getting our money&#039;s worth. It&#039;s just our betters in Washington deciding what&#039;s best for everyone and since it&#039;s not their money or their lives they&#039;re playing with their hierarchy of values might not quite align with the rest of the country. 
  
Heck, they&#039;re in no danger of having to work a 60 hour week for low pay or losing a finger in a punch press or spending all day long breathing in dust and fumes, why would anybody else want to have that sort of job? Well, if your choice is between having a crappy job or no job at all, some of us don&#039;t appreciate having the crappy job option removed. Maybe we could be consulted as to the nature of the cost/benefit analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone pointed out, the EU upset the Brits with their requirement that electric kettles have lower wattage heating elements for &#8220;efficiency&#8221;, which displays not just an indifference to what people want but an indifference to the laws of thermodynamics. Low-flow toilets you have to flush two or three times, washing machines and dishwashers you cycle through an extra rinse, showers you spend an extra five minutes in &#8211; these all use more water than there &#8220;inefficient&#8221; counterparts. </p>
<p>But, just to use the EPA as an example, remember how dirty out air and water were 50, 60 years ago? The EPA had a mandate to make our environment cleaner.  As much as they&#8217;ve done, you&#8217;d think the EPA&#8217;s job would be easier and cheaper &#8211; maybe even at some point they might look around and say &#8220;that&#8217;s good enough&#8221; and they could all pack up and go home &#8211; but, no, it&#8217;s even harder now. That&#8217;s because &#8220;cleaner&#8221; is a never-ending job and the cleaner you make it the more it takes to get it even cleaner. There&#8217;s a law of diminishing returns there, but unfortunately money&#8217;s no object to these people and there&#8217;s no sacrifice so great that they&#8217;re not perfectly willing for other people to make it. </p>
<p>Look at Trump&#8217;s complaints about other countries stealing our manufacturing jobs &#8211; it&#8217;s nice to have the EPA and OSHA and the DoL making sure we all have nice, clean, safe, good-paying jobs with all the benefits, but that means all the low-skill, dirty, dangerous, labor-intensive jobs moved to China and Mexico. Our lifestyle and our expectations have a cost, but nobody&#8217;s ever sat down and discussed the price and whether or not we thought we were getting our money&#8217;s worth. It&#8217;s just our betters in Washington deciding what&#8217;s best for everyone and since it&#8217;s not their money or their lives they&#8217;re playing with their hierarchy of values might not quite align with the rest of the country. </p>
<p>Heck, they&#8217;re in no danger of having to work a 60 hour week for low pay or losing a finger in a punch press or spending all day long breathing in dust and fumes, why would anybody else want to have that sort of job? Well, if your choice is between having a crappy job or no job at all, some of us don&#8217;t appreciate having the crappy job option removed. Maybe we could be consulted as to the nature of the cost/benefit analysis.</p>
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