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	Comments on: President Trump: &#8220;No federal funds&#8221; for Berkeley?	</title>
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		By: Campus climate roundup - Overlawyered		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Campus climate roundup - Overlawyered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] that punished students for speech otherwise protected by First Amendment [The American Interest, earlier] A new cadre of federally mandated administrators, modeled on Title IX coordinators and backed by [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that punished students for speech otherwise protected by First Amendment [The American Interest, earlier] A new cadre of federally mandated administrators, modeled on Title IX coordinators and backed by [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Hugo S Cunningham		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344155</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344141&quot;&gt;Hugo S Cunningham&lt;/a&gt;.

In debates about the wisdom of a Federal Ku-Klux-Klan act,  masked SJW stormtroopers could be called &quot;K-K-Kommies&quot; or &quot;Ku Klux Kommies.&quot;

&quot;Your face is your badge of humanity.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344141">Hugo S Cunningham</a>.</p>
<p>In debates about the wisdom of a Federal Ku-Klux-Klan act,  masked SJW stormtroopers could be called &#8220;K-K-Kommies&#8221; or &#8220;Ku Klux Kommies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your face is your badge of humanity.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gasman		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gasman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344141&quot;&gt;Hugo S Cunningham&lt;/a&gt;.

Fezzik: “Why do you wear a mask? Were you burned by acid or something?&quot;

Westley: &quot;Oh no. It&#039;s just they&#039;re terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.”

Also, never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344141">Hugo S Cunningham</a>.</p>
<p>Fezzik: “Why do you wear a mask? Were you burned by acid or something?&#8221;</p>
<p>Westley: &#8220;Oh no. It&#8217;s just they&#8217;re terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.”</p>
<p>Also, never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.</p>
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		By: No Name Guy		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Name Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 21:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heck, why stop a Berkley?  De-fund them all (ok, not defund, but removal of a large source of funding).  

Fixing the student loan problem and the ridiculous state of higher education is easy - simply eliminate the federal student loan problem.  Also, revise the bankruptcy code to make future private student loans subject to discharge.  

Results:  Taxpayers for the win.  Future students saved from a life of debt servitude paying for a useless degree for the win.  Social Justice Warriors (SJW&#039;s) masquerading as professors on the public payroll for the loss (go get Mr. Soros or other private money to pay for your advocacy) .  One less fiat currency inflation mechanism (since money is loaned into existence) means the lower and middle classes not being screwed by inflation for the win.  Bankers &#038; other rich people who do win from inflation for the loss.

Those two steps would eviscerate the hundreds of billions of slush funds flowing around campuses, returning them, out of necessity, to being selective and providing an actual education to their students, who paying out of pocket, would demand results at a reasonable price.  Without the oodles of cash coming in, universities will be forced to find efficiency that lowers the cost, bringing higher education costs back in line with historical norms (from 20-30 years ago).  

The current student loan model makes many consumers of this product not cost conscious.  Who cares what it costs when it&#039;s so abstract - student loan money never passes a students hands, going straight to the institution.  Forcing students to pay out of pocket will necessarily force a choice of cost effective higher education.

If the snowflake SJW departments can&#039;t find enough suckers, er, students to fund out of pocket, well then, tough cookies.  Useful programs like Physics, Math, Medicine and Engineering for the win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, why stop a Berkley?  De-fund them all (ok, not defund, but removal of a large source of funding).  </p>
<p>Fixing the student loan problem and the ridiculous state of higher education is easy &#8211; simply eliminate the federal student loan problem.  Also, revise the bankruptcy code to make future private student loans subject to discharge.  </p>
<p>Results:  Taxpayers for the win.  Future students saved from a life of debt servitude paying for a useless degree for the win.  Social Justice Warriors (SJW&#8217;s) masquerading as professors on the public payroll for the loss (go get Mr. Soros or other private money to pay for your advocacy) .  One less fiat currency inflation mechanism (since money is loaned into existence) means the lower and middle classes not being screwed by inflation for the win.  Bankers &amp; other rich people who do win from inflation for the loss.</p>
<p>Those two steps would eviscerate the hundreds of billions of slush funds flowing around campuses, returning them, out of necessity, to being selective and providing an actual education to their students, who paying out of pocket, would demand results at a reasonable price.  Without the oodles of cash coming in, universities will be forced to find efficiency that lowers the cost, bringing higher education costs back in line with historical norms (from 20-30 years ago).  </p>
<p>The current student loan model makes many consumers of this product not cost conscious.  Who cares what it costs when it&#8217;s so abstract &#8211; student loan money never passes a students hands, going straight to the institution.  Forcing students to pay out of pocket will necessarily force a choice of cost effective higher education.</p>
<p>If the snowflake SJW departments can&#8217;t find enough suckers, er, students to fund out of pocket, well then, tough cookies.  Useful programs like Physics, Math, Medicine and Engineering for the win.</p>
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		By: Hugo S Cunningham		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some States have Ku Klux Klan acts prohibiting masks at demonstrations and perhaps elsewhere.  Given the recent rise in masked thuggery, it is time for Congress under its 14th Amendment civil rights authority to apply the principle nationwide.  Some ideas (with exceptions for benign contexts like Halloween):

A mask creates &quot;probable cause&quot; for police to stop a subject; identify, photograph and print him; search him for weapons; inspect hands for injuries suggestive of crime.  If in fact there are no unsolved crimes possibly associated with this stop, temporary records can be discarded after a month or so.

A mask establishes &quot;premeditation&quot; for crimes.

Defensive gun use is justified against a masked assailant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some States have Ku Klux Klan acts prohibiting masks at demonstrations and perhaps elsewhere.  Given the recent rise in masked thuggery, it is time for Congress under its 14th Amendment civil rights authority to apply the principle nationwide.  Some ideas (with exceptions for benign contexts like Halloween):</p>
<p>A mask creates &#8220;probable cause&#8221; for police to stop a subject; identify, photograph and print him; search him for weapons; inspect hands for injuries suggestive of crime.  If in fact there are no unsolved crimes possibly associated with this stop, temporary records can be discarded after a month or so.</p>
<p>A mask establishes &#8220;premeditation&#8221; for crimes.</p>
<p>Defensive gun use is justified against a masked assailant.</p>
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		By: Morgan Greene		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morgan Greene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Following a feisty early-morning tweet from President Trump, the University of California, Berkeley said Thursday it “deeply” regrets canceling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following a feisty early-morning tweet from President Trump, the University of California, Berkeley said Thursday it “deeply” regrets canceling.</p>
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		By: Joihn Fembup		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joihn Fembup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344122&quot;&gt;mx&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Yiannopoulos has a proven track record of inciting large-scale mobs&quot;

True.  Also true those large-scale mobs were - and remain - so easily, pathetically  offendable by anyone whose point of view they haven&#039;t the wit to rebut, or who they just hate because it&#039;s fashionable in their set.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344122">mx</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yiannopoulos has a proven track record of inciting large-scale mobs&#8221;</p>
<p>True.  Also true those large-scale mobs were &#8211; and remain &#8211; so easily, pathetically  offendable by anyone whose point of view they haven&#8217;t the wit to rebut, or who they just hate because it&#8217;s fashionable in their set.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344122&quot;&gt;mx&lt;/a&gt;.

I should have been more clear that I was speaking generally.  UC-Berkeley appears to have done all it could, and criminal liability would be tyrannical here.  But to the extent that administrators do things like force conservatives to pay for security or to the extent that administrators do not enforce rules even-handedly so as to harm people for their speech and views--criminal liability can attach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344122">mx</a>.</p>
<p>I should have been more clear that I was speaking generally.  UC-Berkeley appears to have done all it could, and criminal liability would be tyrannical here.  But to the extent that administrators do things like force conservatives to pay for security or to the extent that administrators do not enforce rules even-handedly so as to harm people for their speech and views&#8211;criminal liability can attach.</p>
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		By: John Rohan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Rohan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 13:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344123&quot;&gt;mx&lt;/a&gt;.

They pretty much did throw up their hands and did nothing. NO ONE was arrested (although there are contradictory reports that one person was arrested afterwards) And the police did nothing to stop the rioters. 

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/02/02/berkeley-police-injuries-extensive-property-damage-no-arrests-no-force-used/

As someone else mentioned, withholding federal funds from Universities that violate the 1st Amendment seems more than fair to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344123">mx</a>.</p>
<p>They pretty much did throw up their hands and did nothing. NO ONE was arrested (although there are contradictory reports that one person was arrested afterwards) And the police did nothing to stop the rioters. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/02/02/berkeley-police-injuries-extensive-property-damage-no-arrests-no-force-used/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/02/02/berkeley-police-injuries-extensive-property-damage-no-arrests-no-force-used/</a></p>
<p>As someone else mentioned, withholding federal funds from Universities that violate the 1st Amendment seems more than fair to me.</p>
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		By: PurpleState		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PurpleState]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 10:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344123&quot;&gt;mx&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, but the police did very little; according to The Daily Cal only 1 protestor was arrested:

http://www.dailycal.org/2017/02/02/ucpd-arrests-1-suspect-connection-protests/

Given the level of violence, that just sounds preposterous to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/02/president-trump-no-federal-funds-berkeley/comment-page-1/#comment-344123">mx</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, but the police did very little; according to The Daily Cal only 1 protestor was arrested:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailycal.org/2017/02/02/ucpd-arrests-1-suspect-connection-protests/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailycal.org/2017/02/02/ucpd-arrests-1-suspect-connection-protests/</a></p>
<p>Given the level of violence, that just sounds preposterous to me.</p>
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