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	Comments on: &#8220;Orleans Parish prosecutors are using fake subpoenas&#8221;	</title>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/04/orleans-parish-prosecutors-using-fake-subpoenas/comment-page-1/#comment-345625&quot;&gt;Anonymous Attorney&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Subpoenas are an odd and vestigial creature of the law. Corp counsel is right that any idiot lawyer can issue one, and does.&quot;

Sure, for civil subpoenas.  However, as with many other areas of trial procedure, it works differently in criminal cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/04/orleans-parish-prosecutors-using-fake-subpoenas/comment-page-1/#comment-345625">Anonymous Attorney</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Subpoenas are an odd and vestigial creature of the law. Corp counsel is right that any idiot lawyer can issue one, and does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, for civil subpoenas.  However, as with many other areas of trial procedure, it works differently in criminal cases.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Attorney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 16:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Subpoenas are an odd and vestigial creature of the law.  Corp counsel is right that any idiot lawyer can issue one, and does.  Even the most &quot;proper&quot; of subpoenas are completely lawyer/litigant-driven:  there are regulations, and fees to be paid, and service to be had, but in the end, no judge is to be found anywhere in the process.

So a subpoena is really just a scary, official-looking piece of paper that a lawyer uses as an information-gathering tool.  Other lawyers know you can move to quash them, and that happens.

Most of the time, however, the issuance of a subpoena can set up judicial intervention.  Example:  I subpoena documents.  They aren&#039;t delivered.  So I make a motion to the judge for enforcement of the subpoena.  And if the judge agrees, that&#039;s when fines, imprisonment or other sanctions can really kick in.

I could simply request them by informal e-mail, letter or phone call, but people don&#039;t usually take that seriously, as the DA in New Orleans has discovered.

And, often, parties ascribe magic to subpoenas:  an institution won&#039;t provide documents &quot;without a subpoena&quot;, because this apparently provides a legal fig leaf in the event a challenge hits, like a HIPAA violation, another lawsuit, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subpoenas are an odd and vestigial creature of the law.  Corp counsel is right that any idiot lawyer can issue one, and does.  Even the most &#8220;proper&#8221; of subpoenas are completely lawyer/litigant-driven:  there are regulations, and fees to be paid, and service to be had, but in the end, no judge is to be found anywhere in the process.</p>
<p>So a subpoena is really just a scary, official-looking piece of paper that a lawyer uses as an information-gathering tool.  Other lawyers know you can move to quash them, and that happens.</p>
<p>Most of the time, however, the issuance of a subpoena can set up judicial intervention.  Example:  I subpoena documents.  They aren&#8217;t delivered.  So I make a motion to the judge for enforcement of the subpoena.  And if the judge agrees, that&#8217;s when fines, imprisonment or other sanctions can really kick in.</p>
<p>I could simply request them by informal e-mail, letter or phone call, but people don&#8217;t usually take that seriously, as the DA in New Orleans has discovered.</p>
<p>And, often, parties ascribe magic to subpoenas:  an institution won&#8217;t provide documents &#8220;without a subpoena&#8221;, because this apparently provides a legal fig leaf in the event a challenge hits, like a HIPAA violation, another lawsuit, etc.</p>
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		By: richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our civil subpoenas warn that you may be punished for contempt and liable for $500 and the damages caused by disobeying.  However, they can also only require someone&#039;s appearance for certain types of proceedings.  An unreported conversation with one side&#039;s attorney is not one of those.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our civil subpoenas warn that you may be punished for contempt and liable for $500 and the damages caused by disobeying.  However, they can also only require someone&#8217;s appearance for certain types of proceedings.  An unreported conversation with one side&#8217;s attorney is not one of those.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/04/orleans-parish-prosecutors-using-fake-subpoenas/comment-page-1/#comment-345572&quot;&gt;Corp counsel&lt;/a&gt;.

I tend to doubt that your civil subpoenas carry the following warning which was on the Orleans DA&#039;s subpoenas.

&quot;A FINE AND IMPRISONMENT MAY BE IMPOSED FOR FAILURE TO OBEY THIS NOTICE&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/04/orleans-parish-prosecutors-using-fake-subpoenas/comment-page-1/#comment-345572">Corp counsel</a>.</p>
<p>I tend to doubt that your civil subpoenas carry the following warning which was on the Orleans DA&#8217;s subpoenas.</p>
<p>&#8220;A FINE AND IMPRISONMENT MAY BE IMPOSED FOR FAILURE TO OBEY THIS NOTICE&#8221;</p>
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		By: Corp counsel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corp counsel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yet this would be completely fine for civil proceedings.  As I explain to my foreign colleagues, any idiot in the country with a law degree and lawsuit can issue a subpoena to anyone whether they have a connection to the suit or not -- and they do just that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet this would be completely fine for civil proceedings.  As I explain to my foreign colleagues, any idiot in the country with a law degree and lawsuit can issue a subpoena to anyone whether they have a connection to the suit or not &#8212; and they do just that.</p>
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