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	Comments on: $600,000 award for not accommodating employee&#8217;s &#8220;Mark of the Beast&#8221; beliefs	</title>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346205&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

@gitcarver,

Sorry, that doesn&#039;t make it any less bizarre/irrational in my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346205">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>@gitcarver,</p>
<p>Sorry, that doesn&#8217;t make it any less bizarre/irrational in my opinion.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One also has to understand that until recently, the accommodation framework for medical disability was much different from the framework for religious accommodation.  That changed in the last 10 years, leaving employers to deal with myriad &quot;religious&quot; accommodation requests.  Problem is, a medical disability is a bit more objective.  The courts almost universally refuse to delve into the question of whether someone actually holds the religious belief they espouse.  They instead simply require the employer to accommodate them - and those demands get more outlandish by the day.

Under prior law (note that there was no change in Title VII so we are talking about court-made law) it was fine for the employer to accommodate those with medical issues while requiring others claiming a religious belief to participate in programs required of other employees (e.g. biometric scanning).  But recently we&#039;ve seen things like this.

It gets really fun when employees amalgamate religions and claim they should receive time off for observance of religious festivals affiliated with religions not practiced for centuries - or observances that are anti-religious.  To avoid liability, the employer is stuck with agreeing to the request.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One also has to understand that until recently, the accommodation framework for medical disability was much different from the framework for religious accommodation.  That changed in the last 10 years, leaving employers to deal with myriad &#8220;religious&#8221; accommodation requests.  Problem is, a medical disability is a bit more objective.  The courts almost universally refuse to delve into the question of whether someone actually holds the religious belief they espouse.  They instead simply require the employer to accommodate them &#8211; and those demands get more outlandish by the day.</p>
<p>Under prior law (note that there was no change in Title VII so we are talking about court-made law) it was fine for the employer to accommodate those with medical issues while requiring others claiming a religious belief to participate in programs required of other employees (e.g. biometric scanning).  But recently we&#8217;ve seen things like this.</p>
<p>It gets really fun when employees amalgamate religions and claim they should receive time off for observance of religious festivals affiliated with religions not practiced for centuries &#8211; or observances that are anti-religious.  To avoid liability, the employer is stuck with agreeing to the request.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitarcarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 14:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346205&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

If you read the decision, the guy was not saying that the scanner would place the &quot;mark of the beast&quot; on his hand at this time, but rather the system itself was part of a path that would lead to it imprinting the &quot;mark of the beast.&quot;  

The man did not want to step onto the path and therefore declined to participate in the system due to religious reasons.  

It is also interesting to me that his union filed a complaint but then withdrew it after they discovered they had bargained away the right for religious accommodations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346205">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>If you read the decision, the guy was not saying that the scanner would place the &#8220;mark of the beast&#8221; on his hand at this time, but rather the system itself was part of a path that would lead to it imprinting the &#8220;mark of the beast.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The man did not want to step onto the path and therefore declined to participate in the system due to religious reasons.  </p>
<p>It is also interesting to me that his union filed a complaint but then withdrew it after they discovered they had bargained away the right for religious accommodations.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The job requires you to work on Sunday, but you can&#039;t for religious reasons--that&#039;s the job, so your beliefs prevent you from carrying it out.  You can&#039;t do the job.  Same thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The job requires you to work on Sunday, but you can&#8217;t for religious reasons&#8211;that&#8217;s the job, so your beliefs prevent you from carrying it out.  You can&#8217;t do the job.  Same thing.</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346203&quot;&gt;Walter Olson&lt;/a&gt;.

Biometric scanning involves scanning biological entities, NOT electronic ones ( RFID chips ).
Think retina, fingerprint, palm print, foot print, facial recognition, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346203">Walter Olson</a>.</p>
<p>Biometric scanning involves scanning biological entities, NOT electronic ones ( RFID chips ).<br />
Think retina, fingerprint, palm print, foot print, facial recognition, etc.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 04:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346203&quot;&gt;Walter Olson&lt;/a&gt;.

Then I&#039;m back to total confusion.  

I just don&#039;t get these bizarre claims regarding beliefs about &quot;the mark of the beast&quot;

The mark of the beast is very explicitly described in Revelations.  This doesn&#039;t even come close.

What really gets me is that a lot of this comes from people who claim to believe in a very literal interpretation of the Bible, but then they go off into left field with strange non-literal interpretations of Revelations trying to match it up to current events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346203">Walter Olson</a>.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;m back to total confusion.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t get these bizarre claims regarding beliefs about &#8220;the mark of the beast&#8221;</p>
<p>The mark of the beast is very explicitly described in Revelations.  This doesn&#8217;t even come close.</p>
<p>What really gets me is that a lot of this comes from people who claim to believe in a very literal interpretation of the Bible, but then they go off into left field with strange non-literal interpretations of Revelations trying to match it up to current events.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 03:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Again, before offering what may be incorrect speculation as to the facts of the controversy, do check out the links provided at the end of the post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, before offering what may be incorrect speculation as to the facts of the controversy, do check out the links provided at the end of the post.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 03:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346201&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

Court opinion has no mention of any chip or RFID. It reads: &quot;In the summer of 2012, Consol implemented a biometric hand-scanner system at the mine, in order to better monitor the attendance and work hours of its employees. The scanner system required each employee checking in or out of a shift to scan his or her right hand; the shape of the right hand was then linked to the worker’s unique personnel number.&quot; The medical exception the company had made, according to the opinion, was for two employees whose hand injuries prevented them from using the scanning device. Nothing about chips, again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346201">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>Court opinion has no mention of any chip or RFID. It reads: &#8220;In the summer of 2012, Consol implemented a biometric hand-scanner system at the mine, in order to better monitor the attendance and work hours of its employees. The scanner system required each employee checking in or out of a shift to scan his or her right hand; the shape of the right hand was then linked to the worker’s unique personnel number.&#8221; The medical exception the company had made, according to the opinion, was for two employees whose hand injuries prevented them from using the scanning device. Nothing about chips, again.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 02:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346199&quot;&gt;James&lt;/a&gt;.

An RFID chip?  That makes more sense.  From Walter&#039;s blurb, I was thinking a palm print scan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/07/600000-award-not-accommodating-employees-mark-beast-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-346199">James</a>.</p>
<p>An RFID chip?  That makes more sense.  From Walter&#8217;s blurb, I was thinking a palm print scan.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 00:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read up on this case. The main thing here is that two other employes who couldn&#039;t do the chip for medical reasons were allowed to use a keypad as an alternate option, but this employee was not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read up on this case. The main thing here is that two other employes who couldn&#8217;t do the chip for medical reasons were allowed to use a keypad as an alternate option, but this employee was not.</p>
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