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		By: Black Death		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 15:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In regard to the Keith Wood - jury nullification case in Mecosta County, Michigan, the judge who made these terrible decisions was Kimberly Booher, whose term on the bench began on January 1, 2015.  Fortunately, in Michigan, voters have judge nullification.  Judge Booher is up for reelection in 2020.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regard to the Keith Wood &#8211; jury nullification case in Mecosta County, Michigan, the judge who made these terrible decisions was Kimberly Booher, whose term on the bench began on January 1, 2015.  Fortunately, in Michigan, voters have judge nullification.  Judge Booher is up for reelection in 2020.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 02:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/08/august-1-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-346423&quot;&gt;marco73&lt;/a&gt;.

Haw dare you confuse politicos with  facts and laws!

Here&#039;s the video of the kids laughing at the man. (NSFW!)   It&#039;s horrible to watch.  To not call or try something and instead just laugh at the man is, in my opinion, morally reprehensible.

But my moral outrage does no mean a legal duty to assist or that I want a law requiring such a duty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/08/august-1-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-346423">marco73</a>.</p>
<p>Haw dare you confuse politicos with  facts and laws!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video of the kids laughing at the man. (NSFW!)   It&#8217;s horrible to watch.  To not call or try something and instead just laugh at the man is, in my opinion, morally reprehensible.</p>
<p>But my moral outrage does no mean a legal duty to assist or that I want a law requiring such a duty.</p>
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		By: marco73		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/08/august-1-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-346421&quot;&gt;gitarcarver&lt;/a&gt;.

So the local politicos in Cocoa want a law requiring untrained persons to assist someone who is drowning? What about the tragic event in San Francisco not long ago, where an entire fire trunk crew stood and watched a man drown, because the fire crew did not have the correct equipment for a water rescue. I had not heard of this case but expecting teenagers to risk their lives to go into a retention pond, containing potentially snakes, alligators, and runoff chemicals, sure sounds like a classic bad idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2017/08/august-1-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-346421">gitarcarver</a>.</p>
<p>So the local politicos in Cocoa want a law requiring untrained persons to assist someone who is drowning? What about the tragic event in San Francisco not long ago, where an entire fire trunk crew stood and watched a man drown, because the fire crew did not have the correct equipment for a water rescue. I had not heard of this case but expecting teenagers to risk their lives to go into a retention pond, containing potentially snakes, alligators, and runoff chemicals, sure sounds like a classic bad idea.</p>
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		By: gitarcarver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 07:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:Delivery Out Front.

Northeast of Ft Myers in Cocoa, FL (NOT Cocoa Beach)  is a case playing out where a man walked into a retention pond and could not get back to land.  He drowned.  His struggle was caught on film (isn&#039;t everything?) by 5 teens aged 14-18 who knew the man was in trouble but didn&#039;t do anything to help him and laughed as he struggled.

Law enforcement and the State&#039;s Attorney have struggled to find any law they can charge the teens with.  

They eventually settled on FS 406.12 which requires a person to call the County Medical Examiner when &quot;a person becomes aware of the death of another person.&quot;

Seems like the guy who drove the person to the lawyer should be charged with the same crime.  Right?

The Cocoa Police Chief, the County Sheriff and the State&#039;s Attorney are looking at putting forth a law that requires people to render assistance to someone in trouble like the man who drowned.  Of course, there is no legal requirement that First Responders have a duty to assist, but apparently normal citizens should risk their lives instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:Delivery Out Front.</p>
<p>Northeast of Ft Myers in Cocoa, FL (NOT Cocoa Beach)  is a case playing out where a man walked into a retention pond and could not get back to land.  He drowned.  His struggle was caught on film (isn&#8217;t everything?) by 5 teens aged 14-18 who knew the man was in trouble but didn&#8217;t do anything to help him and laughed as he struggled.</p>
<p>Law enforcement and the State&#8217;s Attorney have struggled to find any law they can charge the teens with.  </p>
<p>They eventually settled on FS 406.12 which requires a person to call the County Medical Examiner when &#8220;a person becomes aware of the death of another person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems like the guy who drove the person to the lawyer should be charged with the same crime.  Right?</p>
<p>The Cocoa Police Chief, the County Sheriff and the State&#8217;s Attorney are looking at putting forth a law that requires people to render assistance to someone in trouble like the man who drowned.  Of course, there is no legal requirement that First Responders have a duty to assist, but apparently normal citizens should risk their lives instead.</p>
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