Comments on: Crime and punishment roundup

By: MattS

MattS — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 16:19:38 +0000

In reply to jimc5499. Where?

By: jimc5499

jimc5499 — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:35:06 +0000

A long time ago I was an armed security guard. Every two years we had to do refresher training. Part of that training was about the laws governing shoot don’t shoot situations. As the law was written then (early 90’s) if somebody started shooting at me and the only available cover was in their direction (think nearly empty parking lot), if I used that cover and then returned fire killing the person shooting at me, I was going to jail. Think that one through.

By: MattS

MattS — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 19:13:49 +0000

In reply to cecil.

I have the same opinion of the duty to retreat. It’s absurd on two fronts.

1. Reasonably assessed, safe retreat would almost never be viable.

2. The law for cops, who are supposed to be trained professionals, is that it’s patently unreasonable to subject cops to an objective assessment of the reasonableness of the use of force. But that’s exactly what the duty to retreat does to untrained civilians.

By: cecil

cecil — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 14:13:36 +0000

Back in the bad old days you were at the most risk when attempting to disengage / retreat. Fighting retreats were required, all out flight lead to slaughter. Now tell me again about this duty-to-retreat?