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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;but 1/3 to the lawyers means that the “damages” paid by Ralph Lauren were only about $450 per intern.&quot;

Per the linked article, it was $305 per intern.

&quot;We need a loser-pays system, where the innocent defendant has a strong motivation to go to trial, and the plaintiff with a poor case has good reason to never file a suit in the first place, or to drop it as soon as discovery turns up problems in the case.&quot;

How would that work with a class-action suit?

Are there any loser pays systems out there that allow class-action suits?  How do they handle that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but 1/3 to the lawyers means that the “damages” paid by Ralph Lauren were only about $450 per intern.&#8221;</p>
<p>Per the linked article, it was $305 per intern.</p>
<p>&#8220;We need a loser-pays system, where the innocent defendant has a strong motivation to go to trial, and the plaintiff with a poor case has good reason to never file a suit in the first place, or to drop it as soon as discovery turns up problems in the case.&#8221;</p>
<p>How would that work with a class-action suit?</p>
<p>Are there any loser pays systems out there that allow class-action suits?  How do they handle that?</p>
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		By: markm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hugo, it&#039;s not the most abusive class-action settlement (for the clients) by far, but 1/3 to the lawyers means that the &quot;damages&quot; paid by Ralph Lauren were only about $450 per intern. Unless the average intern only worked a few weeks, that seems very low - like the lawyers who filed suit rate their chances of winning at trial as rather low, but the company decided to pay them $108K to just go away. The clients did better than most because there are hundreds of them, rather than the tens or hundreds of thousands in a coupon settlement - but it sounds more like the clients are splitting 2 times what the lawyers wanted to get, than that they&#039;re getting 2/3 of what they deserve.

IMO,filing a poorly-founded case in order to extort a small settlement is abusive of the legal system and the defendants. We need a loser-pays system, where the innocent defendant has a strong motivation to go to trial, and the plaintiff with a poor case has good reason to never file a suit in the first place, or to drop it as soon as discovery turns up problems in the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo, it&#8217;s not the most abusive class-action settlement (for the clients) by far, but 1/3 to the lawyers means that the &#8220;damages&#8221; paid by Ralph Lauren were only about $450 per intern. Unless the average intern only worked a few weeks, that seems very low &#8211; like the lawyers who filed suit rate their chances of winning at trial as rather low, but the company decided to pay them $108K to just go away. The clients did better than most because there are hundreds of them, rather than the tens or hundreds of thousands in a coupon settlement &#8211; but it sounds more like the clients are splitting 2 times what the lawyers wanted to get, than that they&#8217;re getting 2/3 of what they deserve.</p>
<p>IMO,filing a poorly-founded case in order to extort a small settlement is abusive of the legal system and the defendants. We need a loser-pays system, where the innocent defendant has a strong motivation to go to trial, and the plaintiff with a poor case has good reason to never file a suit in the first place, or to drop it as soon as discovery turns up problems in the case.</p>
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		By: Hugo S Cunningham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo S Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Ralph Lauren class action settlement--

Maybe the original lawsuit was overhyped, but the payout is less objectionable than many.  The class plaintiffs are being paid real money rather than worthless coupons, and the standard 33% commission to the lawyers is based on actual payouts rather than inflated nominal value of coupons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ralph Lauren class action settlement&#8211;</p>
<p>Maybe the original lawsuit was overhyped, but the payout is less objectionable than many.  The class plaintiffs are being paid real money rather than worthless coupons, and the standard 33% commission to the lawyers is based on actual payouts rather than inflated nominal value of coupons.</p>
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