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		By: cecil		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cecil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 21:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nope.  Not convinced.  Just because certain companies have monopolies doesn&#039;t mean that I actually agree with their contract terms.  I merely agree to pay them x for y service because I need it to work/etc.  Everything else is bs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  Not convinced.  Just because certain companies have monopolies doesn&#8217;t mean that I actually agree with their contract terms.  I merely agree to pay them x for y service because I need it to work/etc.  Everything else is bs.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348877&quot;&gt;mx&lt;/a&gt;.

This case did not involve a waiver of jury trial, but rather an agreement to proceed individually rather than through class action. But waivers of jury trial are routinely approved by courts in other circumstances and rightly so, since they are efficient and voluntary. Your parade of imagined horribles, some of which items are unlawful under other statutes and some of which are not particularly horrible, could be extended at length: the very wicked employment contract also chills your speech by preventing you from standing on a table in the employee cafeteria shouting epithets at the boss, it may require you to forswear your constitutional right to travel, and so on and so forth. 

We&#039;ve disagreed on this issue numerous times in the past, so I&#039;m sorry I haven&#039;t convinced you yet. Maybe tomorrow&#039;s post will do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348877">mx</a>.</p>
<p>This case did not involve a waiver of jury trial, but rather an agreement to proceed individually rather than through class action. But waivers of jury trial are routinely approved by courts in other circumstances and rightly so, since they are efficient and voluntary. Your parade of imagined horribles, some of which items are unlawful under other statutes and some of which are not particularly horrible, could be extended at length: the very wicked employment contract also chills your speech by preventing you from standing on a table in the employee cafeteria shouting epithets at the boss, it may require you to forswear your constitutional right to travel, and so on and so forth. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve disagreed on this issue numerous times in the past, so I&#8217;m sorry I haven&#8217;t convinced you yet. Maybe tomorrow&#8217;s post will do it.</p>
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		By: mx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand the &quot;epic win for contractual freedom&quot; argument. Surely the vast majority of people would not consider it an epic win if employers routinely had contractual prohibitions such as:

- Prohibition of firearm ownership
- Requiring voting for certain candidates or political parties 
- Permitting law enforcement to search their homes without a warrant
- Forbidding the exercise of religion
- etc...

Yet giving up the right to a trial by jury is somehow different? That one is a win?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the &#8220;epic win for contractual freedom&#8221; argument. Surely the vast majority of people would not consider it an epic win if employers routinely had contractual prohibitions such as:</p>
<p>&#8211; Prohibition of firearm ownership<br />
&#8211; Requiring voting for certain candidates or political parties<br />
&#8211; Permitting law enforcement to search their homes without a warrant<br />
&#8211; Forbidding the exercise of religion<br />
&#8211; etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet giving up the right to a trial by jury is somehow different? That one is a win?</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 22:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348875&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;.

I offer a brief answer to that question in my Cato post today on Epic Systems (summary link will post tomorrow), and a longer answer, generally defending the validity, voluntariness, and usefulness of most contracts of adhesion, in my book The Litigation Explosion. 

https://www.cato.org/blog/apocalypse-not-arbitration-survives-epic-systems-v-lewis]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348875">Steve</a>.</p>
<p>I offer a brief answer to that question in my Cato post today on Epic Systems (summary link will post tomorrow), and a longer answer, generally defending the validity, voluntariness, and usefulness of most contracts of adhesion, in my book The Litigation Explosion. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/apocalypse-not-arbitration-survives-epic-systems-v-lewis" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cato.org/blog/apocalypse-not-arbitration-survives-epic-systems-v-lewis</a></p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348875</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Considering the majority of contracts out there that are contracts of adhesion, what good does freedom of contract actually do anyone? Especially on things like products/services where the contract terms are pretty much all the same throughout an industry regardless of which company you&#039;re dealing with, or with employment where the workers/job applicants are disposable and fungible?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the majority of contracts out there that are contracts of adhesion, what good does freedom of contract actually do anyone? Especially on things like products/services where the contract terms are pretty much all the same throughout an industry regardless of which company you&#8217;re dealing with, or with employment where the workers/job applicants are disposable and fungible?</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
		<link>https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348874</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348873&quot;&gt;David C&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, fixed now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/05/supreme-court-roundup-24/comment-page-1/#comment-348873">David C</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, fixed now.</p>
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		By: David C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The link in the third bullet point seems to be the same as a previous link; it just goes to the decision itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link in the third bullet point seems to be the same as a previous link; it just goes to the decision itself.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 11:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ginsburg&#039;s opinion is laughably bad.  First of all, calling the other position &quot;egregious&quot; is way over the top.  Second, the idea that there was a sotto voce limitation on the FAA is just risible.  She doesn&#039;t like the result of neutral interpretive rules and analysis and lashes out with an opinion every bit as bad as Stevens&#039; CU opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginsburg&#8217;s opinion is laughably bad.  First of all, calling the other position &#8220;egregious&#8221; is way over the top.  Second, the idea that there was a sotto voce limitation on the FAA is just risible.  She doesn&#8217;t like the result of neutral interpretive rules and analysis and lashes out with an opinion every bit as bad as Stevens&#8217; CU opinion.</p>
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