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	Comments on: Feds and states bless ABA&#8217;s gatekeeper status in law school accreditation. Why?	</title>
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		By: Antony Vickery		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[What would it take to remake the legal profession in the US?

For example, abolishing the supply-limiting and price-raising requirement that law students first obtain an undergraduate degree, thus permitting people to study law straight from high school as is standard in many other countries.

How about a trimmed-down law degree, study for which would consist of a year of overview courses of constitutional law, contracts, torts, professional ethics, etc., followed by two years of concentrated study in the speciality of the student&#039;s choice: intellectual property, family, wills and trusts, insurance, real estate, etc. Such courses could easily be offered by low-cost community colleges. A graduate would be permitted to practice only the type of law s/he qualified in but could always go back to school to change specialities.

Any such scheme would greatly reduce the price of legal services and the status of lawyers, but I believe both developments would be wholly good. Law isn&#039;t rocket science. Break up the legal cartel, open legal education to the world, and watch prices drop and lawyers become more like other workers: people practicing a white-collar trade..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would it take to remake the legal profession in the US?</p>
<p>For example, abolishing the supply-limiting and price-raising requirement that law students first obtain an undergraduate degree, thus permitting people to study law straight from high school as is standard in many other countries.</p>
<p>How about a trimmed-down law degree, study for which would consist of a year of overview courses of constitutional law, contracts, torts, professional ethics, etc., followed by two years of concentrated study in the speciality of the student&#8217;s choice: intellectual property, family, wills and trusts, insurance, real estate, etc. Such courses could easily be offered by low-cost community colleges. A graduate would be permitted to practice only the type of law s/he qualified in but could always go back to school to change specialities.</p>
<p>Any such scheme would greatly reduce the price of legal services and the status of lawyers, but I believe both developments would be wholly good. Law isn&#8217;t rocket science. Break up the legal cartel, open legal education to the world, and watch prices drop and lawyers become more like other workers: people practicing a white-collar trade..</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/10/feds-and-states-bless-abas-gatekeeper-status-in-law-school-accreditation-why/comment-page-1/#comment-350261&quot;&gt;Walter Olson&lt;/a&gt;.

Unless you want to take into consideration her treatment of military members conducting interviews at HLS and blaming the treatment on &quot;the military&#039;s policy&quot; (i.e., DADT) instead of forthrightly adminitting that DADT was enshrined in the US Code, then you&#039;d have to say that Kagan was well-qualified. 

However, the ABA definitely has stiffed GOP judges---look at the ratings of Jeff Sutton and Eric Clay.  There is zero doubt who is the better judge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2018/10/feds-and-states-bless-abas-gatekeeper-status-in-law-school-accreditation-why/comment-page-1/#comment-350261">Walter Olson</a>.</p>
<p>Unless you want to take into consideration her treatment of military members conducting interviews at HLS and blaming the treatment on &#8220;the military&#8217;s policy&#8221; (i.e., DADT) instead of forthrightly adminitting that DADT was enshrined in the US Code, then you&#8217;d have to say that Kagan was well-qualified. </p>
<p>However, the ABA definitely has stiffed GOP judges&#8212;look at the ratings of Jeff Sutton and Eric Clay.  There is zero doubt who is the better judge.</p>
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		By: Walter Olson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kagan had argued six cases before the Supreme Court as part of her service as U.S. Solicitor General, as well as serving as dean of Harvard Law School. There are plenty of better examples to pick if you&#039;re looking to document the ABA&#039;s well-documented ideological bias (which is probably a better concept here than partisanship in any case).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kagan had argued six cases before the Supreme Court as part of her service as U.S. Solicitor General, as well as serving as dean of Harvard Law School. There are plenty of better examples to pick if you&#8217;re looking to document the ABA&#8217;s well-documented ideological bias (which is probably a better concept here than partisanship in any case).</p>
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		By: John Rohan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Rohan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ABA is unquestionably a partisan organization. They rated Elena Kagan as &quot;well qualified&quot; despite the fact she has zero experience as a judge or work as a trial lawyer:

https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/abas-ridiculous-rating-kagan-ed-whelan/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ABA is unquestionably a partisan organization. They rated Elena Kagan as &#8220;well qualified&#8221; despite the fact she has zero experience as a judge or work as a trial lawyer:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/abas-ridiculous-rating-kagan-ed-whelan/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/abas-ridiculous-rating-kagan-ed-whelan/</a></p>
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