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		By: David C		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2019 17:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; So why can’t the government just sell the property and keep the proceeds?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It amounts to an excessive fine, if nothing else - you&#039;re fining the guy a &lt;em&gt;house&lt;/em&gt; because he didn&#039;t pay $8.41. See, for example, &lt;a&gt;Austin v. United States&lt;/a&gt;, in which civil forfeiture was found to fall under the Eighth Amendment.

It&#039;s a rental property. They could have got a court order to garnish one month&#039;s rent, and that likely would have more than payed for it, even including the fees and interest. There was no reason to take the entire house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> So why can’t the government just sell the property and keep the proceeds?</p></blockquote>
<p>It amounts to an excessive fine, if nothing else &#8211; you&#8217;re fining the guy a <em>house</em> because he didn&#8217;t pay $8.41. See, for example, <a>Austin v. United States</a>, in which civil forfeiture was found to fall under the Eighth Amendment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a rental property. They could have got a court order to garnish one month&#8217;s rent, and that likely would have more than payed for it, even including the fees and interest. There was no reason to take the entire house.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re; Oakland---obviously unfair, and morally offensive,  But is it unconstitutional?  Hmmm.  Government officials have the right to allow third parties to pay past due taxes etc. and get the property free and clear.  So why can&#039;t the government just sell the property and keep the proceeds?  

I know there are answers to this, but the issue isn&#039;t as cut and dried as it seems, and Oakland County may deserve to win on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re; Oakland&#8212;obviously unfair, and morally offensive,  But is it unconstitutional?  Hmmm.  Government officials have the right to allow third parties to pay past due taxes etc. and get the property free and clear.  So why can&#8217;t the government just sell the property and keep the proceeds?  </p>
<p>I know there are answers to this, but the issue isn&#8217;t as cut and dried as it seems, and Oakland County may deserve to win on this.</p>
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		By: cc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All seizing of property for unpaid taxes or traffic citations should only be allowed over a certain amount (not like in this case)--there must surely be other ways of getting $8.41 in unpaid taxes less draconian.  When they are seized and sold the gov absolutely should not be allowed to keep the proceeds over the amount of the fine.  If they could not keep such proceeds I would bet they would seize far fewer properties.  Not worth the hassle to do that to collect $8.41.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All seizing of property for unpaid taxes or traffic citations should only be allowed over a certain amount (not like in this case)&#8211;there must surely be other ways of getting $8.41 in unpaid taxes less draconian.  When they are seized and sold the gov absolutely should not be allowed to keep the proceeds over the amount of the fine.  If they could not keep such proceeds I would bet they would seize far fewer properties.  Not worth the hassle to do that to collect $8.41.</p>
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