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		By: cc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2019 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[France has a law about not firing workers: it results in business being very reluctant to grow or respond to demand. It also results in lots of workers who don&#039;t work and very high unemployment which in Europe generally is often 10% or more (currently 8.8% in France). Cause and effect, how does it work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France has a law about not firing workers: it results in business being very reluctant to grow or respond to demand. It also results in lots of workers who don&#8217;t work and very high unemployment which in Europe generally is often 10% or more (currently 8.8% in France). Cause and effect, how does it work?</p>
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		By: mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Politicians are in politics, which is a business.

The SEIU is in the union business. They don&#039;t care if their &quot;Fight for $15&quot; and &quot;Good Cause for termination&quot; campaigns results in 50K low-wage workers losing their jobs, due to automation or reduced hiring, as long as the union ultimately organizes and gets more dues-paying members as a result.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians are in politics, which is a business.</p>
<p>The SEIU is in the union business. They don&#8217;t care if their &#8220;Fight for $15&#8221; and &#8220;Good Cause for termination&#8221; campaigns results in 50K low-wage workers losing their jobs, due to automation or reduced hiring, as long as the union ultimately organizes and gets more dues-paying members as a result.</p>
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		By: Tribeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tribeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[do as you are told and stop whining.

U.S.  local/state/federal  governments have an absolute duty &#038; authority to closely regulate all aspects of private commerce &#038; economic activity within their jurisdictions.

That is very clearly stated in the US/NY Constitutions and New York City Charter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do as you are told and stop whining.</p>
<p>U.S.  local/state/federal  governments have an absolute duty &amp; authority to closely regulate all aspects of private commerce &amp; economic activity within their jurisdictions.</p>
<p>That is very clearly stated in the US/NY Constitutions and New York City Charter.</p>
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		By: Parkhorse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 13:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/05/minimum-wage-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-354229&quot;&gt;Bob Lipton&lt;/a&gt;.

From the perspective of SEIU, non-union restaurants going out of business is a good thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/05/minimum-wage-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-354229">Bob Lipton</a>.</p>
<p>From the perspective of SEIU, non-union restaurants going out of business is a good thing.</p>
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		By: Allan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 13:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NYC wages:  Summary: it is expensive to run a business when not exploiting workers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC wages:  Summary: it is expensive to run a business when not exploiting workers.</p>
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		By: Bob Lipton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 12:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently &quot;We have to let people go or go out of business&quot; is not a good reason for SEIU.

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently &#8220;We have to let people go or go out of business&#8221; is not a good reason for SEIU.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Parkhorse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2019 12:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Next step for SEIU in New York: demand for laws prohibiting firing of fast food workers without “good cause” [Patrick McGeehan, New York Times&lt;/I&gt;

That NYT article gives a couple examples of people claiming to have been fired unfairly, but entirely leaves out the employers&#039; sides of the story. The Chipotle employee, for instance, who claimed to have been fired for not smiling enough, may well have been repeatedly counseled for having a bad attitude in a customer-facing role. The Taco Bell employee who &quot;was fired without warning from a Taco Bell in Queens after she swore at a delivery driver who was harassing her&quot; may have been justified, or it may have been a fight on the sales floor over a baseless accusation. 

We don&#039;t know, because the NYT is completely uninterested in exploring that. I&#039;ve worked retail, and I&#039;ve seen plenty of employees insisting it&#039;s entirely unfair that they were fired for one trivial thing, when they were actually drunk on the job, swearing at a customer, and had a file thick with previous warnings. Sometimes one &quot;minor&quot; offense is the last in a long line of other offenses. 

I&#039;m just skeptical about these articles where only one side gets to speak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Next step for SEIU in New York: demand for laws prohibiting firing of fast food workers without “good cause” [Patrick McGeehan, New York Times</i></p>
<p>That NYT article gives a couple examples of people claiming to have been fired unfairly, but entirely leaves out the employers&#8217; sides of the story. The Chipotle employee, for instance, who claimed to have been fired for not smiling enough, may well have been repeatedly counseled for having a bad attitude in a customer-facing role. The Taco Bell employee who &#8220;was fired without warning from a Taco Bell in Queens after she swore at a delivery driver who was harassing her&#8221; may have been justified, or it may have been a fight on the sales floor over a baseless accusation. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know, because the NYT is completely uninterested in exploring that. I&#8217;ve worked retail, and I&#8217;ve seen plenty of employees insisting it&#8217;s entirely unfair that they were fired for one trivial thing, when they were actually drunk on the job, swearing at a customer, and had a file thick with previous warnings. Sometimes one &#8220;minor&#8221; offense is the last in a long line of other offenses. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just skeptical about these articles where only one side gets to speak.</p>
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