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	Comments on: Requiring adult supervision when kids use pool = unlawful discrimination?	</title>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 13:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355556&quot;&gt;SPO&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course it&#039;s lawless.  Unfortunately, SCOTUS has blessed this lawlessness. 

The only way to stop it is to overturn the SCOTUS decision that these registries are civil rather than criminal penalties.  The ex-post-facto only applies to criminal law is nearly 200 years old and they aren&#039;t going to overturn that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355556">SPO</a>.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s lawless.  Unfortunately, SCOTUS has blessed this lawlessness. </p>
<p>The only way to stop it is to overturn the SCOTUS decision that these registries are civil rather than criminal penalties.  The ex-post-facto only applies to criminal law is nearly 200 years old and they aren&#8217;t going to overturn that one.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 11:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355545&quot;&gt;MattS&lt;/a&gt;.

Understood of course---but here&#039;s the problem---someone who has served their time is (other than the ability to restrict voting, which is a very close call) stands before the government as any other citizen.  So where is the source of power to restrict where they live (for old convictions)--all upon pain of serious criminal penalities.  You don&#039;t need a law degree to know how lawless this is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355545">MattS</a>.</p>
<p>Understood of course&#8212;but here&#8217;s the problem&#8212;someone who has served their time is (other than the ability to restrict voting, which is a very close call) stands before the government as any other citizen.  So where is the source of power to restrict where they live (for old convictions)&#8211;all upon pain of serious criminal penalities.  You don&#8217;t need a law degree to know how lawless this is.</p>
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		By: MattS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 01:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355537&quot;&gt;SPO&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately there is really old precedent that the ex post facto thing only applies to criminal law, and much more recently, SCOTUS decided that the sex offender registries aren&#039;t a criminal penalty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2019/08/requiring-adult-supervision-when-kids-use-pool-unlawful-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-355537">SPO</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately there is really old precedent that the ex post facto thing only applies to criminal law, and much more recently, SCOTUS decided that the sex offender registries aren&#8217;t a criminal penalty.</p>
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		By: jimc5499		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This made me laugh.  A few years ago, a company that I worked for rented a facility for a picnic.  It had a pool and the Company hired a lifeguard to work the picnic.  The lifeguard didn&#039;t show up, so I volunteered to be the lifeguard.  I was turned down because I wasn&#039;t a &quot;certified lifeguard&quot;.  There was no place in that pool that I couldn&#039;t have waded to and I was &quot;certified in CPR and First Aid.

A few years later my Great Niece played in a junior basketball league in the school gym on weekends.  Word got out that if they had a &quot;certified&quot; lifeguard, they could open the pool after the league was finished.  I volunteered to take the &quot;certification course&quot;.  I had a 19 year old teaching the class.  That was four hours of my life that I want back.  I got the certification and they opened the pool.

The funny thing is that I was a Combat Search and Rescue swimmer in the Navy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me laugh.  A few years ago, a company that I worked for rented a facility for a picnic.  It had a pool and the Company hired a lifeguard to work the picnic.  The lifeguard didn&#8217;t show up, so I volunteered to be the lifeguard.  I was turned down because I wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;certified lifeguard&#8221;.  There was no place in that pool that I couldn&#8217;t have waded to and I was &#8220;certified in CPR and First Aid.</p>
<p>A few years later my Great Niece played in a junior basketball league in the school gym on weekends.  Word got out that if they had a &#8220;certified&#8221; lifeguard, they could open the pool after the league was finished.  I volunteered to take the &#8220;certification course&#8221;.  I had a 19 year old teaching the class.  That was four hours of my life that I want back.  I got the certification and they opened the pool.</p>
<p>The funny thing is that I was a Combat Search and Rescue swimmer in the Navy.</p>
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		By: SPO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Because, of course, we want to take everything to its logical conclusion.  

Except, of course, things like ex post facto when it comes to RSOs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, of course, we want to take everything to its logical conclusion.  </p>
<p>Except, of course, things like ex post facto when it comes to RSOs.</p>
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