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		By: CarLitGuy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CarLitGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 01:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.overlawyered.com/2020/01/from-overlawyered-posts-to-scotus-hypotheticals/comment-page-1/#comment-357473&quot;&gt;BJM&lt;/a&gt;.

that is the question the Chief Justice asked.  Is a single slang (pejorative) enough?

and the lawyers responded by putting words all around it, instead of a simple yes or no.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2020/01/from-overlawyered-posts-to-scotus-hypotheticals/comment-page-1/#comment-357473">BJM</a>.</p>
<p>that is the question the Chief Justice asked.  Is a single slang (pejorative) enough?</p>
<p>and the lawyers responded by putting words all around it, instead of a simple yes or no.</p>
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		By: BJM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what if they just said &quot;OK [insert derogatory term] for a minority or a woman?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if they just said &#8220;OK [insert derogatory term] for a minority or a woman?</p>
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		By: CarLitGuy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having read news reports of the exchange, I&#039;m not convinced the lawyers on either side answered Justice Roberts&#039; question.  It seems to me, as a non-lawyer, that the answers given (with all that was added after &quot;Boomer&quot;...) are rather weasel-y.  SCOTUSBlog gives one exchange as thus:

“I think if the decisionmakers are sitting around the table and they say, we’ve got Candidate A who’s 35 and we’ve got Candidate B who’s 55 and is a boomer and is probably tired and — and, you know, doesn’t have a lot of computer skills, I think that absolutely would be actionable,” Martinez says.&quot;

&quot;Candidate A who’s 35 and we’ve got Candidate B who’s 55&quot; seems actionable on its face, as direct comparison of age in candidates, assuming age has no basis in the job requirements - which must be true for almost every imaginable position.

&quot;and is a boomer and is probably tired - &quot; seems actionable as an age-related opinion and negative reference.

&quot; and, you know, doesn’t have a lot of computer skills&quot; doesn&#039;t seem actionable, assuming computer skills are needed for the job, and the employer/potential employer has tested the two candidate&#039;s computer skills via the same method, so as to have a means of comparison.  Of course, if that&#039;s another baseless assumption, then its a miracle a company so badly run and unskilled at sorting job applicants is big enough to need multiple decision makers in hiring/promoting.  Not that such a thing is impossible, I&#039;ve worked for a number of companies with highly incompetent managers and promotion practices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read news reports of the exchange, I&#8217;m not convinced the lawyers on either side answered Justice Roberts&#8217; question.  It seems to me, as a non-lawyer, that the answers given (with all that was added after &#8220;Boomer&#8221;&#8230;) are rather weasel-y.  SCOTUSBlog gives one exchange as thus:</p>
<p>“I think if the decisionmakers are sitting around the table and they say, we’ve got Candidate A who’s 35 and we’ve got Candidate B who’s 55 and is a boomer and is probably tired and — and, you know, doesn’t have a lot of computer skills, I think that absolutely would be actionable,” Martinez says.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Candidate A who’s 35 and we’ve got Candidate B who’s 55&#8221; seems actionable on its face, as direct comparison of age in candidates, assuming age has no basis in the job requirements &#8211; which must be true for almost every imaginable position.</p>
<p>&#8220;and is a boomer and is probably tired &#8211; &#8221; seems actionable as an age-related opinion and negative reference.</p>
<p>&#8221; and, you know, doesn’t have a lot of computer skills&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem actionable, assuming computer skills are needed for the job, and the employer/potential employer has tested the two candidate&#8217;s computer skills via the same method, so as to have a means of comparison.  Of course, if that&#8217;s another baseless assumption, then its a miracle a company so badly run and unskilled at sorting job applicants is big enough to need multiple decision makers in hiring/promoting.  Not that such a thing is impossible, I&#8217;ve worked for a number of companies with highly incompetent managers and promotion practices.</p>
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