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		<title>Eleventh Circuit slaps down overly broad EEOC subpoena</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>After receiving a complaint of health-status discrimination from a Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines employee, followed by a response from the company saying that the employee was a foreign national working on a foreign-flagged ship and therefore not subject to EEOC authority, the agency launched a massive fishing expedition: (1) List all employees who were discharged [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After receiving a complaint of health-status discrimination from a Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines employee, followed by a response from the company saying that the employee was a foreign national working on a foreign-flagged ship and therefore not subject to EEOC authority, the agency launched a massive fishing expedition: </p>
<blockquote><p>(1)  List all employees who were discharged or whose contracts were not renewed [from August 25, 2009, through the present] due to a medical reason.<br />
(2)  For each employee listed in response to request number 1, include the employee’s name, citizenship, employment contract, position title, reason for and date of discharge, a copy of the separation notice and the last known contact information for each individual.<br />
(3)  For each employee listed in response to request number 1, include their employment application and related correspondence, any interview notes, the identity of the person who hired the employee, how the employee obtained the position (i.e., online, in person, recruiter), the location where the employee was interviewed, and the identity and location of the person who made the final hiring decision.<br />
(4)  List all the persons who applied for a position but were not hired within the relevant period due to a medical reason<br />
(5)  For each person listed in response to request number 4, include their citizenship, employment application and related correspondence, any interview notes, the identity of the person [who] hired the employee, how the employee learned of the position (i.e., online, in person, recruiter), the location where the employee was interviewed, and the identity and location of the person who made the final hiring decision.</p></blockquote>
<p>The cruise line complied in (massive) part, but not fully, &#8220;providing records for employees and applicants who were United States citizens&#8221; but not others. The agency took the dispute to court and proceeded to lose at every stage, the Eleventh Circuit being the latest to find its information demands burdensome and irrelevant: “The relevance necessary to support a subpoena for the investigation of an individual charge is relevance to the contested issues that must be decided to resolve the charge, not relevance to issues that may be contested when and if future charges are brought by others.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.huntonlaborblog.com/2014/11/articles/eeoc-and-government-litigation/eeocs-subpoena-power-reined-in-by-the-eleventh-circuit/">Hunton and Williams</a>; <a href="http://www.phelpsdunbar.com/elaborate-eleventh-circuit-denies-enforcement-of-overreaching-eeoc-subpoena-11-13-2014">Phelps Dunbar</a>] </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the commission <a href="http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/11-18-14.cfm">has issued</a> its fiscal 2014 performance report; in explaining a drop in resolved complaints, its public statement cites the &#8220;lingering effects of sequestration and the government shutdown&#8221; but not the <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/judges-vs-eeoc/">marked</a> <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2014/10/three-courtroom-defeats-eeoc/">skepticism</a> that judges repeatedly showed toward EEOC <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2014/10/eeocs-background-checks/">positions</a> through the year.  </p>

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		<title>Suspended Montgomery Blair Sibley still getting press coverage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome readers of the Mary Ann Akers blog in the Washington Post (via M&#38;N). It&#8217;s not clear why anyone is still covering the press releases of Mr. Sibley, who has been suspended from practice in the District of Columbia, and thus has no basis to be filing anything in court. While Sibley has appealed his [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/06/warning_to_sen_vitter_dc_madam.html">readers of the Mary Ann Akers blog in the Washington Post</a> (via <a href="http://themitchandnanshow.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/breakingbreakingbreaking-8/">M&amp;N</a>).  It&#8217;s not clear why anyone is still covering the press releases of Mr. Sibley, who has been <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/05/montgomery-blair-sibley-suspended-in-dc/">suspended</a> from practice in the District of Columbia, and thus has no basis to be filing anything in court.  While Sibley has <a href="http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07a925.htm">appealed his suspension to the U.S. Supreme Court</a>, I will happily wager that the application for a stay is denied, followed by the denial of the writ of certiorari.  This is, after all, Mr. Sibley&#8217;s twelfth <a href="http://search.access.gpo.gov/supreme-court/SearchRight.asp?ct=Supreme-Court-Dockets&amp;q1=montgomery+and+sibley&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">petition for certiorari on his own behalf</a>, and the first eleven (along with five on behalf of clients who were not Mr. Sibley) have all been denied.</p>
<p><span id="more-7129"></span>Sibley&#8217;s latest stunt is to claim that he will call 800 witnesses who were alleged clients of Palfrey&#8217;s call-girl service at the civil forfeiture proceedings over Deborah Jeane Palfrey&#8217;s estate.  It&#8217;s not going to happen: as a <a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/5/16/1914169/us-opposition-to-sibley.pdf">suspended attorney</a>, Sibley is ineligible to appear in federal court, which is why the government filed a <a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/5/16/1914169/us-opposition-to-sibley.pdf">notice of suspension on May 21</a>.  (The victims of Sibley in Larry Sinclair&#8217;s lawsuit against bloggers have yet to file such a notice.  Not clear what they&#8217;re waiting for, though, technically, under the local rules, it is Sibley&#8217;s obligation to notify the federal court he has been suspended and is ineligible to practice.)  Moreover, the US government has <a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/5/16/1914169/sibley-motion-to-substitute.pdf">opposed his proposed substitution on behalf of the late Palfrey</a> in Case No. 06-1710, <em>United States v. 803 Capitol Street</em>&#8211;Sibley was fired by Palfrey, has no one to represent since there is no executor to the Palfrey estate as of yet, and has a conflict of interest with the Palfrey estate because he filed a claim on his own behalf to the property in question: even if he weren&#8217;t suspended, the district court would be exceedingly unlikely to let him intervene in the forfeiture case, much less turn it into a circus, and, indeed, it ordered that the government need not file a formal brief.  (Note that Sibley&#8217;s motion to substitute acknowledges that he hasn&#8217;t sought permission from his alleged client, Blanche Palfrey.) The question is why reporters are permitting themselves to be marionettes to broadcast whatever Sibley blasts as an e-mail, when he has <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/montgomery-blair-sibley/">repeatedly demonstrated that he shouldn&#8217;t be taken seriously</a>.</p>

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		<title>March 25 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of patients who act against medical advice and sue anyway: doctor who advised against home birth is cleared by Ohio jury in $13 million suit [Plain Dealer and earlier via KevinMD] UK: &#8220;A feud over a 4ft-wide strip of land has seen neighbours rack up £300,000 in lawyers&#8217; bills, and left one family effectively [&#8230;]</p>
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<li>Speaking of patients who <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/03/when-you-werent-even-on-the-bu.html">act against medical advice and sue anyway</a>: doctor who advised against home birth is cleared by Ohio jury in $13 million suit [<a href="http://cleve.live.advance.net/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1201944615154830.xml&amp;coll=2">Plain Dealer</a> and <a href="http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/01/the_only_significant_undispute.html">earlier</a> via <a href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2008/01/doctor-advised-against-home-birth-gets.html">KevinMD</a>]</li>
<li>UK: &#8220;A feud over a 4ft-wide strip of land has seen neighbours rack up £300,000 in lawyers&#8217; bills, and left one family effectively homeless.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/20/nbill120.xml">Telegraph</a>]</li>
<li>Last of the Scruggs judicial bribery defendants without a plea deal, Dickie&#8217;s son Zack, takes one [<a href="http://www.folo.us/2008/03/21/zach-scruggs-plea-documents-from-the-sun-herald/">Folo</a>]</li>
<li>By reader acclaim: securities trader sues over injury from lap dancer&#8217;s attentions [<a href="http://www.nysun.com/article/73145">AP/NY Sun</a>]</li>
<li>Amid the talk of FISA and retroactive telecom immunity, it would be nice to hear more about the actual lawsuits [<a href="http://newhouse-web.syr.edu/legal/blog_comments.cfm?blogpost=550">Obbie</a>]</li>
<li>Australian worker loses suit over firing despite a doctor&#8217;s note vouching that stress of worrying about upcoming football game made it medically necessary for him to take day off to go see it [<a href="http://stumblng.tumblr.com/post/29137785">Stumblng Tumblr</a>]</li>
<li><a href="http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/on_approval.php">Megan McArdle</a> and <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/03/should-we-waive.html">Tyler Cowen</a> toss around the question of federal FDA pre-emption of drug liability suits, as raised by <em>Medtronic</em>;</li>
<li>Should Coughlin Stoia have <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/03/special-master-coughlin-stoia.html">bought those stolen Coke documents</a>? For one lawprof, question&#8217;s a real head-scratcher [<a href="http://legalethicsforum.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/class-counsel-a.html">David McGowan (San Diego), Legal Ethics Forum</a>] And WSJ news side is oddly unskeptical of trial lawyers&#8217; line that the affair just proves their power to go on fishing expeditions should never have been curtailed [<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120469302703513151.html">Jones/Slater</a>]</li>
<li>Dashboard-cam caught Tennessee cops red-handed planting marijuana on suspect, or so <a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2008/02/23/video-allegedly-show-police-planting-drugs-on-suspect-after-allowing-dog-to-attack-him-without-cause/">Jonathan Turley suggests</a> &#8212; but could it be a little more complicated than that? [<a href="http://www.wsmv.com/news/15370841/detail.html?rss=nash&amp;psp=news">WSMV</a>, <a href="http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=7943520">AP/WATE</a>] (<strong>&amp;</strong> <a href="http://blog.simplejustice.us/2008/03/25/apology-to-cookville-cop-more-or-less.aspx">Greenfield</a>)</li>
<li>&#8220;Heck Baptists don&#8217;t even sue you for disagreeing with them,&#8221; though no doubt there are exceptions [<a href="http://instapundit.com/archives2/016855.php">Instapundit</a>; NYT on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/books/20cartoon.html">Danish cartoons</a>; Ezra Levant with more on those <a href="http://ezralevant.com/2008/03/a-great-deal-of-anger-has-been.html">Canadian speech tribunals</a>]</li>
<li>Bestselling authors who sue their critics [<a href="http://overlawyered.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=shhhh%21&amp;IncludeBlogs=1">four years ago on Overlawyered</a>]</li>
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		<title>December 7 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of privacy, consider what happens when lawyers get a hold of your email. (When will we see law professors eager to create new causes of action consider the privacy-destroying implications of ediscovery?) [Fulton County Daily Report/law.com; Toronto Globe &#38; Mail; Point of Law] Earlier: Jan. 9 and links therein. Speaking of privacy and reputation, [&#8230;]</p>
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<li>Speaking of <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/12/daniel_soloves_the_future_of_r.html">privacy</a>, consider what happens when lawyers get a hold of your email.  (When will we see law professors eager to create new causes of action consider the privacy-destroying implications of ediscovery?)  [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/ihc/PubArticleIHC.jsp?id=1194516243458">Fulton County Daily Report/law.com</a>; <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071205.LAWMAIN05/TPStory/Business">Toronto Globe &amp; Mail</a>; <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/004276.php">Point of Law</a>]  Earlier: <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/01/privacy_and_trial_lawyers.html">Jan. 9</a> and links therein.</li>
<li>Speaking of privacy and reputation, Mary Roberts goes to trial, but <a href="http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/12/lawyer_of_the_day_mary_roberts.php">Above the Law</a> doesn&#8217;t mention our coverage (<a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2004/06/sex_lawyers_secrets_at_heart_o.html">June 2004</a>; <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/09/update_indictments_in_roberts.html">Sep. 2005</a>; <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/02/update_indictments_in_roberts_1.html">Feb. 6</a>; <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/03/litigation_is_coercive.html">Mar. 19</a>; <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/05/updates_may_17.html">May 17</a>), and misses the juicy details.</li>
<li>Oy: &#8220;Woman who &#8216;lost count after drinking 14 vodkas&#8217; awarded £7,000 over New Year fall from bridge.&#8221;  News from the compensation culture not entirely bad: damages were reasonable, and the court did hold the woman 80% responsible, the exact opposite of the <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/10/urban_legends_and_stella_liebe.html">McDonald&#8217;s coffee case</a>. [<a href="http://news.scotsman.com/aberdeen.cfm?id=1908672007">Scotsman.com</a>]</li>
<li>No good deed goes unpunished: Sperm donor liable for child support, judge rules. [<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004046062_sperm01.html">Newsday/Seattle Times</a>]</li>
<li>Bad attorney gets fired, sues DLA Piper for discrimination, represents herself pro se, demonstrates firsthand why she got fired: law firm wins on summary judgment. [<a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/confrontational_lawyer_loses_dla_piper_bias_suit/">ABA Journal</a>; update: also <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1196935479196">New York Law Journal</a>]</li>
<li>Romney on tort reform; McCain on medmal. [<a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/tortsprof/2007/12/romney-on-tort.html">Torts Prof Blog</a>; <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/tortsprof/2007/12/mccain-med-mal.html">Torts Prof Blog</a>]</li>
<li>Another day, another Borat lawsuit. I&#8217;m still waiting for the consumer fraud lawsuit from moviegoers upset that it was not actually a Kazakh documentary. [<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0437222820071204">Reuters</a>; <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;q=site%3Aoverlawyered.com+borat&amp;btnG=Search">earlier</a>]</li>
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		<title>Jackpot justice: $20M for $25,000 insurance claim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 07:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Ted Fields was injured in an auto accident with Jimmy Woodley; Woodley&#8217;s insurer went bankrupt, so Fields, on January 30, 1997, asked Allstate to pay $25,000 in medical bills and lost wages. Allstate sent Fields forms to fill out, and he did so three weeks later; when Allstate didn&#8217;t pay instantaneously, he sued them in [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Fields was injured in an auto accident with Jimmy Woodley; Woodley&#8217;s insurer went bankrupt, so Fields, on January 30, 1997, asked Allstate to pay $25,000 in medical bills and lost wages.  Allstate sent Fields forms to fill out, and he did so three weeks later; when Allstate didn&#8217;t pay instantaneously, he sued them in March 1997 for bad faith.  Fields turned the discovery process into a far-reaching investigation of all of Allstate&#8217;s claim procedures; the judge refused to constrain irrelevant deposition questioning, at which point in 1999 Allstate offered Fields the full amount of his $50,000 policy limit rather than waste hundreds of thousands in trial.  Fields refused; his attorneys filed several separate motions of default rather than litigate the underlying issues after the trial court denied a summary judgment motion.  An appellate court <a href="http://www.ai.org/judiciary/opinions/archive/12150401.jts.html">found that Allstate was entitled to summary judgment</a> because of the lack of any evidence of bad-faith in responding to Fields&#8217;s claims; the <a href="http://www.ai.org/judiciary/opinions/pdf/20220602bd.pdf">Indiana Supreme Court overturned that ruling</a> on a procedural technicality that the appeal was premature.</p>
<p>The trial court ruled that Allstate was not allowed to present evidence that it was not liable for actual or punitive damages or that it acted “with anything other than dishonest purpose, moral obliquity, furtive design, and/or ill will.”  A jury, hearing this one-sided sham of a trial, awarded $20 million in damages, though one would hope the Court of Appeals, hearing a timely appeal, makes the same decision it made before.  Press coverage fails to mention that Allstate wasn&#8217;t allowed to defend itself at trial; the plaintiff told the jury that the dispute caused high blood pressure, heart problems, and a stroke, though then the question becomes why he isn&#8217;t suing his attorney. (Ken Kosky, &#8220;Valpo man wins $20 million verdict v. Allstate&#8221;, Northwest Indiana Times, <a href="http://nwitimes.com/articles/2006/10/06/news/top_news/6409f528b241e99a862571fe007e81d5.txt">Oct. 6</a>).</p>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>According to a story in the San Antonio Express-News, husband-and-wife legal partners Ted H. and Mary Schorlemer Roberts received money in a curious sequence of events. Mary, claiming to seek &#8220;no strings&#8221; discreet encounters, would seduce men over an Internet dating service. Ted would then write the men (in legal documents sometimes typed by Mary) [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a story in the San Antonio Express-News, husband-and-wife legal partners Ted H. and Mary Schorlemer Roberts received money in a curious sequence of events.  Mary, claiming to seek &#8220;no strings&#8221; discreet encounters, would seduce men over an Internet dating service.  Ted would then write the men (in legal documents sometimes typed by Mary) and notify them that he planned to seek intrusive and public civil discovery to investigate whether the affair brought forward potential causes of action that were flimsy at best; the men would pay tens of thousands of dollars for a release and confidentiality agreement.  (As the <a href="http://admin.robertsmedlaw.lawoffice.com/">law firm&#8217;s web site</a> puts it, &#8220;We believe in a team approach.&#8221;)  Because of Texas&#8217;s permissive legal ethical rules, prosecutors decided they couldn&#8217;t pursue extortion charges; state law permits Roberts to bring &#8220;creative&#8221; claims and to take discovery in advance of filing a lawsuit, and the prosecution had no way of proving that Roberts&#8217;s intent in submitting the documents was a bluff rather than a &#8220;legitimate&#8221; lawsuit.</p>
<p>The newspaper found out only because another lawyer, Robert V. West III, sought to raise the scheme as part of a separate business dispute with the Roberts; fans of poetic justice will note that the Roberts accuse West of blackmail, and brought disciplinary charges against West and his lawyer to the state bar.  The bar is investigating West, but, apparently, not the Roberts.  Everyone involved denies any wrongdoing.  Roberts unsuccessfully brought suit to prevent publication of the story, but the court records remain sealed.  (Maro Robbins and Joseph S. Stroud, <a href="http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA061304.1robertscase.15e7a78d7.html">Jun. 13</a>) (via <a href="http://legalaffairs.org/howappealing/">Bashman</a>).</p>

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