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		<title>Tucson&#8217;s two-tiered shaming</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tucson PD releases names of people possibly connected to prostitutes — after removing those who happen to be cops.&#8221; That&#8217;s the headline atop a Radley Balko post about a decision by authorities in the Arizona city to do a splashy public release of the names and numbers of persons found on cellphones confiscated from massage [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tucson PD releases names of people possibly connected to prostitutes — after removing those who happen to be cops.&#8221; That&#8217;s the headline atop a <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/07/07/tucson-pd-releases-names-of-people-possibly-connected-to-prostitutes-after-removing-those-who-happen-to-be-cops/">Radley Balko post</a> about a decision by authorities in the Arizona city to do a splashy public release of the names and numbers of persons found on cellphones confiscated from massage parlors, despite the police chief&#8217;s own confirmation that the &#8220;inclusion of information in this list is in no way indicative of involvement in criminal activity&#8221;:  </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;before releasing the names of hundreds of people who appeared in the phones, the city police checked the names against the city’s roster of police officers. They then redacted those names, and released all the others. The police officers’ information won’t be released until they’ve had a chance to clear their names through an internal investigation. As for everyone else, well, good luck explaining&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> <strong>But note</strong> that according to an anonymous commenter below, the general release of names wasn&#8217;t something up to city authorities&#8217; discretion:</p>
<blockquote><p>the names weren’t “released”, the Arizona Daily Star requested the names from police records (under a public records transparency law.) The police redacted the officer names because under the law they were under active investigation, which is a legal exception carved out due to unions.</p></blockquote>
<p>If this account is accurate, while the episode had the effect of splashily shaming various Tucsonians who did not benefit from the special privacy protection available to cops, it&#8217;s misleading to suggest that that was the city&#8217;s intent.</p>

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		<title>For me but not for thee: Montgomery County lawn pesticide ban</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a new post at Cato at Liberty about a proposed countywide ban on common lawn and turf pesticides in Washington, D.C.&#8217;s suburban Montgomery County. The best part is that county officials are frantically maneuvering to get the county&#8217;s own playing fields exempted from the ban. The piece concludes: Libertarians often note that the [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a <a href="http://www.cato.org/blog/suburban-dc-revealing-turf-war">new post at Cato at Liberty</a> about a proposed countywide ban on common lawn and turf pesticides in Washington, D.C.&#8217;s suburban Montgomery County. The best part is that county officials are frantically maneuvering to get the county&#8217;s own playing fields exempted from the ban. The piece concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Libertarians often note that the state freely bans private conduct in which it’s happy to indulge itself — federal investigators can lie to you but it’s a crime if you lie to them, adopting federal accounting practices in your own business is a good way to get sent to prison, and so forth. But the double standard asked for here could wind up being — well, to coin a phrase, as bald as a Rockville lawn.</p></blockquote>
<p>More: From the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/proposed-ban-on-cosmetic-pesticides-causes-turf-war-in-montgomery-county/2015/03/08/51533626-bdc9-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html">Washington Post&#8217;s piece</a>, quoting a retired minister who lives in Silver Spring: “My lawn is such a little fragment of American Freedom. Please respect it.”  [cross-posted at <a href="https://freestatenotes.wordpress.com/2015/03/10/for-me-but-not-for-thee-montgomery-county-lawn-pesticide-ban/">Free State Notes</a>] </p>
<p><strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2015-03-11/banning-pesticides-on-lawns">Kojo Nnamdi Show</a>, <a href="http://euvoluntaryexchange.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-worms-play-pinochle-on-your-snout.html">Euvoluntary Exchange</a> (more on provisions of bill, including enumeration of &#8220;non-essential&#8221; pesticides to be restricted, a list that incorporates by reference lists in use in other jurisdictions like Ontario and the European Commission and grants the county executive authority to name others; links back to this <a href="http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/Resources/Files/bill/2014/Packets/20141028_4C.pdf">county document</a>); <a href="http://www.gazette.net/article/20141029/NEWS/141028972/montgomery-council-bill-would-ban-pesticides-used-on-lawns&#038;template=gazette">Gazette</a> in October; <a href="http://watchdog.org/204801/moco-lawns-pesticide-ban/">Brad Matthews, Watchdog</a>.</p>

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		<title>Harvard health-care hilarity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For years, Harvard’s experts on health economics and policy have advised presidents and Congress on how to provide health benefits to the nation at a reasonable cost. But those remedies will now be applied to the Harvard faculty, and the professors are in an uproar.&#8221; [New York Times via Jonathan Adler; Rich Lowry, New York [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For years, Harvard’s experts on health economics and policy have advised presidents and Congress on how to provide health benefits to the nation at a reasonable cost. But those remedies will now be applied to the Harvard faculty, and the professors are in an uproar.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/us/health-care-fixes-backed-by-harvards-experts-now-roil-its-faculty.html?hp&#038;action=click&#038;pgtype=Homepage&#038;module=second-column-region&#038;region=top-news&#038;WT.nav=top-news">New York Times</a> via <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/05/harvard-professors-learn-not-to-like-obamacare/">Jonathan Adler</a>; <a href="http://nypost.com/2015/01/05/when-obamacare-came-to-harvard/">Rich Lowry, New York Post</a> (quoting Twitter: &#8220;Karma is a pre-existing condition.&#8221;; <a href="http://www.cato.org/blog/faculty-harvard-university-irrational">Michael Cannon, Cato</a> (&#8220;one of the most wonderful things I have read in the course of my career&#8221;)]</p>

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		<title>&#8220;Guns are largely forbidden in Bermuda&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but Mayor Bloomberg of New York, one of the nation&#8217;s most famously anti-gun politicos, has a dispensation for armed bodyguards from his own NYPD. [NY Times via Instapundit] Tags: for me but not for thee, guns, Michael Bloomberg</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2013/01/guns-largely-forbidden-bermuda/">&#8220;Guns are largely forbidden in Bermuda&#8230;&#8221;</a> is a post from <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.overlawyered.com/">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but Mayor Bloomberg of New York, one of the nation&#8217;s most famously anti-gun politicos, has a dispensation for armed bodyguards from his own NYPD. [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/nyregion/26bermuda.html?scp=7&#038;sq=Bloomberg&#038;st=cse&#038;_r=0">NY Times</a> via <a href="http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/162047/">Instapundit</a>]</p>

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		<title>&#8220;Structuring&#8221;: who can get away with it, and who can&#8217;t</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Structuring,&#8221; as readers may recall, is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government. Structuring is unlawful whether or not it occurs in conjunction with any other legal offense, as opposed to being [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Structuring,&#8221; as readers may <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/spitzer-and-structuring/">recall</a>, is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government. Structuring is unlawful whether or not it occurs in conjunction with any other legal offense, as opposed to being motivated by, say, a desire to keep a low profile in general or a sentiment that the government already keeps tabs on too many innocent activities. Nor is there any requirement that the person be aware that there is a law banning structuring; someone who gets wind that transactions over $10,000 are reportable, and decides &#8220;What&#8217;s up with that? I&#8217;ll just make $9,000 deposits&#8221;), has broken the Bank Secrecy Act. Indeed, the federal government instructs banks to report suspicious patterns of sub-threshold deposits, and <a href="http://reason.com/archives/1999/03/01/lost-in-the-wash">not to warn customers</a> that it is doing so. </p>
<p>So who can engage in structuring and get by with it? Well, it might have a bit to do with who you are:</p>
<p>* <strong>On the one hand</strong>, as Courtney Mabeus <a href="http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=134695">reports in today&#8217;s edition</a> of the Frederick News-Post, federal prosecutors yesterday filed a six-page complaint against dairy farmers Randy and Karen Sowers, who own the successful <a href="http://www.southmountaincreamery.com/home.php">South Mountain Creamery</a> in Middletown, Md. On February 29 Treasury officials showed up at their farm to question them about bank deposits; 45 minutes into that interview, according to the Sowerses, they learned that the federal government had just seized their bank account and the $70,000 in it. The family does a lot of business at farmer&#8217;s markets and its cash receipts over a ten-month period exceeded $320,000, the feds say. The News-Post account includes no mention of the family being under suspicion of any offenses other than what U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein describes as follows: &#8220;The holding back of cash receipts in excess of $10,000 indicates a knowledge of the Currency Transaction Reporting requirement and an attempt to evade it.&#8221; The couple is now speaking out about their plight to a wider public; they have hired attorney David Watt, though how they intend to pay him given the seizure of their bank account is not clear from the article. (<strong>Update</strong> <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/update-baltimore-city-paper-on-south-mountain-creamery-case/">Apr. 21</a>: see also Apr. 18 coverage in <a href="http://citypaper.com/news/cashed-out-1.1301518">Baltimore City Paper</a>; <strong>&#038; welcome</strong> <a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/29/sunday-links-91/">Radley Balko</a> readers)</p>
<p>* <strong>On the other hand</strong>, if you are former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, you might not find the federal structuring laws so intimidating. Spitzer had good reason to be intimately familiar with the bank reports system since he <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Mar11/0,4670,SpitzerTheMoneyTrail,00.html">had relied on its output</a> in conducting white-collar investigations, and he was &#8220;<a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/eliot-smurfer/">smurfing</a>&#8221; deposits in furtherance of conduct that was itself illegal, as he knew well, having <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/whited-sepulchre-watch/">crusaded</a> in favor of longer sentences for &#8220;johns&#8221; as part of his appeal to <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/spitzer-endnotes/">New York City feminist and legal-services groups</a>.  But as Harvey Silverglate <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/harveysilverglate/2011/07/18/news-corp-the-fcpa-and-elliott-spitzers-longstanding-practice-of-hypocrisy/">points out</a>, &#8220;Spitzer, with the help of a high-powered legal team, was able to convince the Justice Department’s lawyers to drop the charges.&#8221; Now he goes on TV to denounce the federal government&#8217;s failure to prosecute persons in high places. </p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re too busy going after the dairy farmers. </p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> The Supreme Court, in a majority opinion by Justice Ruth Ginsburg [Ratslaf v. U.S., 1994], admirably &#8220;interpreted the &#8216;willfully&#8217; element for a currency structuring violation under 31 U.S.C. Sec. 5324 to require proof that the defendant knew the structuring was illegal.  Congress responded rather promptly to the Court&#8217;s holding by dropping willfulness from the statute.&#8221; [<a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/whitecollarcrime_blog/2005/09/_ratzlaf_redux_.html">White Collar Crime Prof</a>, h/t Sam Bagenstos] (<strong>&#038; welcome</strong> <a href="http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2012/04/structuring-who-can-get-away-with-it-and-who-cant.html">Prof. Bainbridge</a>, <a href="http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/04/20/laws_are_for_li.html">Amy Alkon</a>, <a href="http://www.openmarket.org/2012/04/20/an-america-of-inequalities/">Hans Bader</a> readers; <strong>&#038; see</strong> <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/update-baltimore-city-paper-on-south-mountain-creamery-case/">update</a>.)</p>

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		<title>Include recent family photo, &#8220;political beliefs&#8221; with application</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Elie Mystal at Above the Law thinks a Decorah, Iowa &#8220;Trial Lawyers for Justice&#8221; plaintiff&#8217;s firm might want to consider including an &#8220;equal opportunity employer&#8221; tagline in its hiring announcement. Update: Firm defends its position. Tags: discrimination law, for me but not for thee, Iowa</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2009/08/do_they_have_employment_non-di.php">Elie Mystal at Above the Law</a> thinks a Decorah, Iowa &#8220;Trial Lawyers for Justice&#8221; plaintiff&#8217;s firm might want to consider including an &#8220;equal opportunity employer&#8221; tagline in its hiring announcement. <strong>Update</strong>: Firm <a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2009/08/trial_lawyers_for_justice_defe.php">defends its position</a>. </p>

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		<title>Med-mal: Massachusetts adopts &#8220;loss of a chance&#8221; doctrine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In a key victory for plaintiffs and their lawyers, the Massachusetts Supreme Court has for the first time adopted the &#8220;loss of a chance&#8221; doctrine, which allows plaintiffs to recover money without having to show that it was more likely than not that the charged medical negligence made the difference in their recovery or survival. [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a key victory for plaintiffs and their lawyers, the Massachusetts Supreme Court has for the first time adopted the &#8220;loss of a chance&#8221; doctrine, which allows plaintiffs to recover money without having to show that it was more likely than not that the charged medical negligence made the difference in their recovery or survival. (Denise Lavoie, &#8220;Doctor held liable for a &#8216;loss of chance'&#8221;, AP/Boston Globe, <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/07/24/doctor_held_liable_for_a_loss_of_chance/">Jul. 24</a>). When Medical Economics surveyed the field <a href="http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=367345">two years ago</a>, they found that about half the states had accepted the more liberal doctrine, which <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/000948.php">runs counter to the Anglo-American</a> &#8220;more likely than not&#8221; prerequisite for establishing causation. More on the inexact and contradictory standards used in such cases <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=646084">here</a>.</p>
<p>Readers of this site will not be the least surprised to learn that American courts have <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=527184">shown little or no interest in extending</a> the &#8220;loss of a chance&#8221; doctrine for the benefit of plaintiffs in <em>legal</em> malpractice cases filed against attorneys whose inattention might have (but probably didn&#8217;t) deprive their clients of a favorable outcome in court proceedings. </p>

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		<title>July 13 roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new about lawyers stealing money from estates, but embarrassing when they used to head the bar association [Eagle-Tribune; Lawrence, Mass., Arthur Khoury] Unusual &#8220;reverse quota&#8221; case: black job applicant wins $30K after showing beauty supply company turned her down because it had a quota of whites to hire [SE Texas Record] Who knew? Per [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><UL><LI>Nothing new about lawyers stealing money from estates, but embarrassing when they used to head the bar association [<a href="http://www.eagletribune.com/punews/local_story_192000843.html">Eagle-Tribune</a>; Lawrence, Mass., Arthur Khoury]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Unusual &#8220;reverse quota&#8221; case: black job applicant wins $30K after showing beauty supply company turned her down because it had a quota of whites to hire [<a href="http://setexasrecord.com/news/213529-sally-beauty-to-pay-woman-30k-for-unlawful-hiring-practices">SE Texas Record</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Who knew? Per class action allegations, pet food contains ingredients &#8220;unfit for human consumption&#8221; [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202422055276">Daily Business Review</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>U.K.: &#8220;A divorcee who won a £1.4million payout from her multi-millionaire husband is suing her lawyers because she claims she should have got twice that amount.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2275998/Millionaire-divorcee-sues-lawyers-for-not-winning-big-enough-pay-out.html">Telegraph</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>UW freshman falls from fourth-floor dorm window after drinking at &#8220;Trashed Tuesday&#8221;, now wants $ from Delta Upsilon International as well as construction firm that put in windows [<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/369031_fraternity01.html">Seattle P-I</a>, <a href="http://www.komonews.com/news/local/22752229.html">KOMO</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>After giant $103 million payday, current and former partners at Minneapolis law firm are torn by feuds and dissension &#8212; wasn&#8217;t there a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pearl_(novel)">John Steinbeck novella</a> about that? [<a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/partners_feud_over_103m_payday_at_heins_mills_in_minn">ABA Journal</a> and <a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/jury_gives_lawyer_extra_16_million_slice_of_103_m_legal_fees_pie">again</a>, Heins Mills]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Small firm that used to make Wal-Mart in-house videos sets up shop at AAJ/ATLA convention hawking those videos for use in suits against the retailer [<a href="http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Business/230616/">Arkansas Democrat Gazette</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/04/kansas-firm-airs-candid-wal-mart-videos/">earlier</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>When the judge&#8217;s kid gets busted [<a href="http://ericberlin.com/?p=2262">Eric Berlin</a>; Alabama]</LI></UL> </p>

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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>More on that New Mexico claim of &#8220;electro-sensitive&#8221; Wi-Fi allergy: quoted complainant is a longtime activist who&#8217;s written an anti-microwave book [VNUNet, USA Today &#8220;On Deadline&#8221; via ABA Journal] Your wisecracks belong to us: &#8220;Giant Wall of Legal Disclaimers&#8221; at Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor at Disneyland [Lileks; h/t Carter Wood] New at Point of Law: [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><UL><LI>More on that New Mexico <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/05/claim-allergic-to-wi-fi/">claim</a> of &#8220;electro-sensitive&#8221; Wi-Fi allergy: quoted complainant is a longtime activist who&#8217;s written an anti-microwave book [<a href="http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2217507/mexico-group-tries-ban-wi">VNUNet</a>, <a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/05/allergic-to-wif.html">USA Today &#8220;On Deadline&#8221;</a> via <a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/wifi_sensitive_individuals_claim_ada_violation">ABA Journal</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Your wisecracks belong to us: &#8220;Giant Wall of Legal Disclaimers&#8221; at Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor at Disneyland [<a href="http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/08/0508/052108.html">Lileks</a>; h/t Carter Wood]</LI></p>
<p><LI>New at Point of Law: AAJ commissions a poll on arbitration and <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/05/survey-reveals-publics-ability.php">gets the results it wants</a>; carbon nanotubes, <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/05/nanotubes-are-to-asbestos-what.php">tomorrow&#8217;s asbestos</a>? California will require lawyers operating without professional liability insurance to <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/05/lawyers-who-go-uninsured.php">inform clients of that fact</a> (earlier <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/06/june-21-roundup/">here</a> and <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2004/11/going-bare/">here</a>); and much more. </LI></p>
<p><LI>Actuaries being sued for underestimating funding woes of public pension plans [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/business/21pension.html">NY Times</a> via <a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/actuaries_face_lawsuits_for_underestimating_pension_liabilities">ABA Journal</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>City of Santa Monica and other defendants will pay $21 million to wrap up lawsuits from elderly driver&#8217;s 2003 rampage through downtown farmers&#8217; market [<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-market22-2008may22,0,5516449.story">L.A. Times</a>; <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/10/farmers-market-victims-can-sue-santa-monica/">earlier</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Sequel to Giants Stadium/Aramark dramshop case, which won a gigantic award later set aside, is fee claim by fired lawyer for plaintiff [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1209114339679">NJLJ</a>; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/4vh9vs">Rosemarie Arnold site</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Privacy law with an asterisk: federal law curbing access to drivers license databases has exemption that lets lawyers purchase personal data to help in litigation [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202421322356">Daily Business Review</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Terror of FEMA: formaldehyde in Katrina trailers looks to emerge as mass toxic injury claim, and maybe we&#8217;ll find out fifteen years hence whether there was anything to it [<a href="http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/uptotheminute.cfm?recid=17530">AP/NOCB</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Suit by &#8220;ABC&#8221; firm alleges that Yellow Book let other advertisers improperly sneak in with earlier alphabetical entries [<a href="http://madisonrecord.com/news/contentview.asp?c=212770">Madison County Record</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Gun law compliance, something for the little people? A tale from Chicago&#8217;s Board of Aldermen [<a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/958879,CST-NWS-mell20.article">Sun-Times</a>, Ald. Richard Mell]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Think twice about commissioning a mural for your building since federal law may restrain you from reclaiming the wall at a later date [<a href="http://overlawyered.com/2004/05/art-vs-property-rights/">four years ago on Overlawyered</a>]</LI></UL> </p>

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		<title>Trial lawyer John O&#8217;Quinn again defends his right to arbitrate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>While trial lawyers attempt to abolish every-day businesspeople&#8217;s right to arbitrate, they continue to use arbitration with their own clients. The Texas Supreme Court, in a December 14 opinion, recently defended John O&#8217;Quinn&#8217;s right to arbitrate with his clients; the Wolfgang Demino blog has details. (Other clients have had more success against O&#8217;Quinn in arbitration.) [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While trial lawyers attempt to abolish <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/arbitration">every-day businesspeople&#8217;s right to arbitrate</a>, they continue to use arbitration with their own clients.  The Texas Supreme Court, in a December 14 opinion, recently defended John O&#8217;Quinn&#8217;s right to arbitrate with his clients; the <a href="http://texas-arbitration-case-law.blogspot.com/2007/12/appealing-arbitration-chambers-v-oquinn.html">Wolfgang Demino blog</a> has details.  (Other clients <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2007/09/oquinn_told_to_pay_clients_41.html">have had more success against O&#8217;Quinn in arbitration</a>.)  Note that the Arbitration Fairness Act, the trial bar&#8217;s effort to deprive consumers of the choice of predispute arbitration clauses, doesn&#8217;t apply to attorney-client relationships.  <a href="https://www.overlawyered.com/2008/02/arbitration_for_me_but_not_for.html">Earlier</a>.</p>

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