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		<title>Great moments in foreseeability</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kid Throws A Cinderblock Off Balcony, And Landlord May Be Liable&#8221; [Daniel Fisher, Forbes, on Connecticut Supreme Court&#8217;s ruling in Ruiz v. Victory Properties &#8220;that a landlord may be liable for allowing a 10-year-old to throw an 18-pound cinderblock from the balcony of his mother’s apartment &#8230; [because] the landlord should have known the construction [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kid Throws A Cinderblock Off Balcony, And Landlord May Be Liable&#8221; [<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2015/03/10/kid-throws-a-cinderblock-off-balcony-and-landlord-may-be-liable/">Daniel Fisher, Forbes</a>, on Connecticut Supreme Court&#8217;s ruling in Ruiz v. Victory Properties &#8220;that a landlord may be liable for allowing a 10-year-old to throw an 18-pound cinderblock from the balcony of his mother’s apartment &#8230; [because] the landlord should have known the construction materials and other junk laying around behind the building could become deadly missiles in the hands of a child.&#8221;] </p>

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		<title>One too many causes of death?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A woman&#8217;s lawsuit charges that the death of her 77-year-old husband was the &#8220;direct and proximate result&#8221; of his slip and fall 21 months earlier on an &#8220;unnatural accumulation of ice&#8221; in front of a Trader Joe&#8217;s supermarket. A newspaper article last year describes the man as having fought a &#8220;courageous battle with cancer&#8221; before [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A woman&#8217;s lawsuit charges that the death of her 77-year-old husband was the &#8220;direct and proximate result&#8221; of his slip and fall 21 months earlier on an &#8220;unnatural accumulation of ice&#8221; in front of a Trader Joe&#8217;s supermarket. A newspaper article last year describes the man as having fought a &#8220;courageous battle with cancer&#8221; before his death. [<a href="http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=360901">Josh Stockinger, Batavia (Ill.) Daily Herald</a>] </p>

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		<title>Deep pockets files: 1956 edition</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Decedent, Lloyd A. Wiseman, a vice president of a San Francisco bank, died of asphyxiation and burns in a hotel room in New York City. He was in that city on bank business, and his traveling expenses, including his hotel bills, were paid by the bank. A woman, not his wife but registered as such, [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Decedent, Lloyd A. Wiseman, a vice president of a San Francisco bank, died of asphyxiation and burns in a hotel room in New York City. He was in that city on bank business, and his traveling expenses, including his hotel bills, were paid by the bank. A woman, not his wife but registered as such, was found unconscious in his room and died shortly thereafter. There was evidence that they had been drinking. Sometime between 4 and 5 in the morning of his death, Wiseman telephoned the hotel manager for help because of a fire in his room. After calling the fire department, the manager went to the room but was unable to open the door with his passkey. Firemen arrived shortly thereafter and broke into the room but were too late to save the occupants. It was the opinion of the assistant fire marshal that the fire was caused by careless smoking by either one or both of the occupants.</p></blockquote>
<p>The California Supreme Court went on to hold that Wiseman&#8217;s widow and children were entitled to death benefits from his employer because his death &#8220;was proximately caused by the employment&#8221;&mdash;a remarkable definition of proximate cause. The Court reasoned that Wiseman might have died while entertaining a legitimate guest in the hotel room (at 4 in the morning?), so the fact that the death occurred in the course of nookie was irrelevant. That seems to me to prove too much: Wiseman might have died smoking in his bed at home, too, and he just happened to be in a hotel when his bad habits killed him.  But this was part of Judge Traynor&#8217;s successful remaking of tort law in the 1950&#8217;s, and the death of proximate cause is a large part why we have the mess we have today.  <a href="http://online.ceb.com/calcases/C2/46C2d570.htm"><I>Wiseman v. Industrial Acc. Com.</i> (1956) 46 Cal. 2d 570.</a></p>
<p>(You can tell that this is still over fifty years ago, though, because the widow didn&#8217;t sue the hotel or cigarette company.)</p>

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		<title>Update: $4.5 million for NYC cop who fell off chair, shot self</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We covered this case a little more than a year ago, and now it&#8217;s slated for the city&#8217;s appeal, per an update last fall by John Hochfelder at New York Injury Cases. Jury Verdict Review has a version with some details redacted for nonsubscribers. Tags: guns, NYC, police, product liability, proximate cause</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/11/hes-not-a-klutz-45-million-for-nyc-cop-shot-in-tippy-chair/">covered this case</a> a little more than a year ago, and now it&#8217;s slated for the city&#8217;s appeal, per <a href="http://www.newyorkinjurycasesblog.com/2009/10/articles/knee-injuries/update-on-4500000-jury-verdict-for-cop-who-shot-himself-in-knee/">an update last fall</a> by John Hochfelder at New York Injury Cases. Jury Verdict Review <a href="http://www.jvra.com/Verdict_Trak/article.aspx?id=158483">has a version</a> with some details redacted for nonsubscribers. </p>

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		<title>Airline turbulence injury blamed on weather forecasters</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Two Alaska Airlines flight attendants who were injured when a 2007 flight from Seattle to California encountered turbulent air have filed a legal claim against a national weather forecasting service and against the U.S. government.&#8221; [Seattle Times/Belleville News-Democrat] Tags: aviation, proximate cause, taxpayers</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Two Alaska Airlines flight attendants who were injured when a 2007 flight from Seattle to California encountered turbulent air have filed a legal claim against a national weather forecasting service and against the U.S. government.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.bnd.com/198/story/1057292.html">Seattle Times/Belleville News-Democrat</a>]</p>

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		<title>Suing cellphone makers over car crashes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times publicizes a possible new front for product liability litigation [sidebar, yesterday&#8217;s p. 1 story] P.S. A long, must-read post from Russell Jackson, who was quoted in the article: &#8220;Various Defenses Should Make Cell Phone Suit Untenable&#8220;. Tags: autos, cellphones, failure to warn, proximate cause</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times publicizes a possible new front for product liability litigation [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/technology/07distracted-side.html?_r=2">sidebar</a>, yesterday&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/technology/07distracted.html?ref=technology">p. 1 story</a>]</p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> A long, must-read post from Russell Jackson, who was quoted in the article: &#8220;<a href="http://www.consumerclassactionsmasstorts.com/2009/12/articles/new-suits/various-defenses-should-make-cell-phone-suit-untenable/">Various Defenses Should Make Cell Phone Suit Untenable</a>&#8220;.</p>

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		<title>&#8220;Harvard professor says Nancy Grace was contributor in Florida woman&#8217;s suicide&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A wrongful-death suit claims the TV host&#8217;s badgering drove a woman over the brink. [AP/L.A. Times, Brian Cuban; more on Grace, and our earlier coverage of this suit; OnPoint News] Tags: broadcasters, Nancy Grace, proximate cause, suicide</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wrongful-death suit claims the TV host&#8217;s badgering drove a woman over the brink.  [<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-missing-florida-boy,0,5588236.story">AP/L.A. Times</a>, <a href="http://www.briancuban.com/did-nancy-grace-kill-melinda-duckett-2/">Brian Cuban</a>; <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/02/nancy-grace-lawprofs-on-the-duke-case/">more</a> on Grace, and our <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2006/11/nancy-grace-sued-for-guests-suicide/">earlier coverage</a> of this suit; <a href="http://www.onpointnews.com/NEWS/Expert-Ambush-Interview-Caused-Woman-s-Suicide.html">OnPoint News</a>] </p>

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		<title>Claim: air crash caused drug overdose death</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Olson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A suit by the estate of the late DJ AM says a 2008 plane crash that he survived helped cause his 2009 drug overdose death [ET Online, TortsProf] Tags: aviation, illegal drugs, proximate cause</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A suit by the estate of the late DJ AM says a 2008 plane crash that he survived helped cause his 2009 drug overdose death  [<a href="http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/11/80987/">ET Online</a>, <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/tortsprof/2009/11/proximate-cause.html">TortsProf</a>] </p>

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		<title>Hot tea lawsuit has interesting procedural quirk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>One can almost fill an entirely separate blog with variations on the McDonald&#8217;s hot coffee case. In Manhattan, 77-year-old Rachel Moltner ordered a hot tea from a Starbucks, but had trouble removing the tightly-secured lid, spilling the beverage all over her. (You will recall other lawsuits complaining that the Starbucks lids are not tight enough.) [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can almost fill an entirely separate blog with <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/hot-coffee/">variations</a> on the <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/stella-liebeck/">McDonald&#8217;s hot coffee case</a>.  In Manhattan, 77-year-old Rachel Moltner ordered a hot tea from a Starbucks, but had trouble removing the tightly-secured lid, spilling the beverage all over her.  (You will recall <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/07/yet-another-mcdonalds-coffee-style-lawsuit/">other lawsuits</a> complaining that the Starbucks lids are not tight enough.)  Moltner not only blames Starbucks for her resulting second- and third-degree burns (and recall that the raison d&#8217;être of the Stella Liebeck suit was the false claim that only McDonald&#8217;s served beverages that were hot enough to cause third-degree burns), but for the broken bones she suffered when she fell out of bed in Lenox Hill Hospital while being treated for burns.  Moltner&#8217;s asking for $3 million.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/11222008/news/nationalnews/starbucks_tea_totals_gran__suit_140189.htm">Press coverage</a> in the NY Post (h/t P.G.) is short on legal details (though one is encouraged to see Starbucks publicly defending themselves, an apparent <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/07/yet-another-mcdonalds-coffee-style-lawsuit/">change in policy</a>). But I&#8217;ve downloaded and uploaded <a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/5/16/1914169/moltner-v-starbucks-removal.pdf">the complaint</a>, which was filed in state court and removed to federal court.  The kitchen-sink allegations include a defective cup, defectively hot tea, and a failure to warn.  Right now the parties are haggling over federal removal jurisdiction, as Starbucks waited more than thirty days after receiving the complaint&#8211;until a formal demand for money was made&#8211;to seek removal.  This is an interesting example of sandbagging; if defendants remove cases simply on the possibility that alleged damages will exceed the amount-in-controversy requirement, they may incorrectly remove cases that should remain in state court, but if they wait for the formal confirmation from the plaintiff, they may face the allegation that they&#8217;ve missed the 30-day window to remove a case&#8211;something to consider when plaintiffs&#8217; attorneys complain that defendants reflexively remove cases to federal court that don&#8217;t belong there.  Moltner has a good argument that Starbucks waited too long to remove, because alleged damages would have clearly exceeded $75,000 despite the lack of an <em>ad damnum </em>clause in the complaint citing a number, but the consequence of such a ruling will be that defendants will be forced to prematurely remove cases that perhaps should not be removed.  (<em>Moltner v. Starbucks Coffee Co.</em>, #: 1:08-cv-09257-LAP-AJP (S.D.N.Y.)).</p>

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		<title>&#8220;Securities laws are not insurance to protect against economic losses.&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.  (In re Apollo Group, Inc. Securities Litigation (D. Ariz. 2008) via WSJ Law Blog; Bloomberg).  Plaintiffs will appeal the trial court&#8217;s decision to throw out the $277 million verdict. Tags: class actions, jackpot justice, proximate cause, securities litigation</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.  (<em><a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/apollo.pdf">In re Apollo Group, Inc. Securities Litigation</a></em> (D. Ariz. 2008) via <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/08/05/rising-from-ashes-of-jury-verdict-apollo-group-wins-huge-reversal/">WSJ Law Blog</a>; <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=aG.lwFsKhHYk">Bloomberg</a>).  Plaintiffs will appeal the trial court&#8217;s decision to throw out the $277 million verdict.</p>

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