There were almost no women in the mathematics department when I got my graduate degree. I’m glad that there doesn’t have to be “gender equality” in math classes, too. Otherwise it would be illegal to teach it.
@aaaa Getting ready to go to my math class (graduate level partial differential equations). There are 2 females in the entire class, and at least 80% of the class is made up of foreign students.
I teach in the computer science master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University. Typically about 15-20% of the students in my classes are female. In the class I am teaching this semester, there are 2 female students out of 12 (17%).
Title IX states that it is illegal for a federally funded school to discriminate on the basis of gender. The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance.
All you have to do, is find a program category, say arts, with a gender bias in favour of women and mount the same legal challenge. Surely there must be the will (and the money) somewhere to back enough legal challenges nation-wide to cause a stir. If you threaten the programs favoured by women, they’re bound to take notice of the hypocrisy. Fight insanity with insanity!
Culdescahcero — In the time it took you to write, “The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance,” you could have used The Google to figure out you were wrong. Title IX has never required 50/50. One way of satisfying Title IX is proportional to enrollment, but that’s not the only way. The more common way is to show “The institution is fully and effectively accommodating the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex.”
Max, that sounds nice, but the enforcement of Title IX has been nearly–exclusively?–on the proportional-representation prong of the three-part test, prosecuted by the Feds and decided by the courts…..with the added danger that Title IX may now be starting to be enforced at high-school level, something Title IX was explicitly never supposed to be done.
Your assertion sounds “nice” (for people trying to kill Title IX), but can you cite a single case in which a Court ignored the third prong of the three-prong test and instead required proportional-representation?
Here’s an update on Towson University from the American Sports Council, one of the only organization’s attempting to reform the law’s regulations so that male athletes will no longer have to face discrimination caused by activists and government bureaucrats: http://savingsports.org/2012/10/09/puppeteeringattowsonuniversity/
The word I forgot to put in was “almost”, as in “…nearly–almost exclusively?–on the proportional-representation clause…”. The other two prongs you mention never seem to be cited when a Title IX case comes up, as the only safe harbor courts, and such as the Women’s Sports Foundation, seem to recognize/allow on any consistent basis is proportional enrollment. Whether there is more interest among men compared to women in sports–an aspect that should be at least taken into account–is deemed irrelevant, sexist, outdated, etc. That is way wrong, and way outdated–Title IX needs to be changed, and before it somehow gets applied to high schools.
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Towson University is dropping two men’s sports for both budgetary and Title IX issues.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bal-towson-athletic-department-recommends-cutting-baseball-and-mens-soccer-20121002,0,734782.story
There were almost no women in the mathematics department when I got my graduate degree. I’m glad that there doesn’t have to be “gender equality” in math classes, too. Otherwise it would be illegal to teach it.
I’m glad that there doesn’t have to be “gender equality” in math classes, too.
That may be true for now Reuven, but if the radical feminists get their way, Title IX will be mandated for the sciences and math.
@Reuven That changed by now. Woman study math too now, so you do not have to worry about that.
@aaaa Getting ready to go to my math class (graduate level partial differential equations). There are 2 females in the entire class, and at least 80% of the class is made up of foreign students.
maybe the low numbers of men taking Womens Studies will finally see it dropped by universities. We could hope.
I teach in the computer science master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University. Typically about 15-20% of the students in my classes are female. In the class I am teaching this semester, there are 2 female students out of 12 (17%).
Title IX does not cause a university to make a revenue-neutral decision. Money does.
Title IX doesn’t work that way ps. It is like a check valve, it only works one way.
Title IX states that it is illegal for a federally funded school to discriminate on the basis of gender. The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance.
All you have to do, is find a program category, say arts, with a gender bias in favour of women and mount the same legal challenge. Surely there must be the will (and the money) somewhere to back enough legal challenges nation-wide to cause a stir. If you threaten the programs favoured by women, they’re bound to take notice of the hypocrisy.
Fight insanity with insanity!
Culdescahcero — In the time it took you to write, “The test applied to sports is a 50/50 balance or proportional to school attendance,” you could have used The Google to figure out you were wrong. Title IX has never required 50/50. One way of satisfying Title IX is proportional to enrollment, but that’s not the only way. The more common way is to show “The institution is fully and effectively accommodating the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex.”
Max, that sounds nice, but the enforcement of Title IX has been nearly–exclusively?–on the proportional-representation prong of the three-part test, prosecuted by the Feds and decided by the courts…..with the added danger that Title IX may now be starting to be enforced at high-school level, something Title IX was explicitly never supposed to be done.
Melvin,
Your assertion sounds “nice” (for people trying to kill Title IX), but can you cite a single case in which a Court ignored the third prong of the three-prong test and instead required proportional-representation?
I’ll wait. It’ll take you a while.
Here’s an update on Towson University from the American Sports Council, one of the only organization’s attempting to reform the law’s regulations so that male athletes will no longer have to face discrimination caused by activists and government bureaucrats: http://savingsports.org/2012/10/09/puppeteeringattowsonuniversity/
Max, can you name one? ((sound of crickets…))
The word I forgot to put in was “almost”, as in “…nearly–almost exclusively?–on the proportional-representation clause…”. The other two prongs you mention never seem to be cited when a Title IX case comes up, as the only safe harbor courts, and such as the Women’s Sports Foundation, seem to recognize/allow on any consistent basis is proportional enrollment. Whether there is more interest among men compared to women in sports–an aspect that should be at least taken into account–is deemed irrelevant, sexist, outdated, etc. That is way wrong, and way outdated–Title IX needs to be changed, and before it somehow gets applied to high schools.